Why Is War Normal And Acceptable?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by ginalee14, Aug 24, 2014.

  1. thedope

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    Oh, pick me, pick me...
     
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  2. Karen_J

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    You'll get no argument from me.
     
  3. thedope

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    All phenomena are lawful, nature is just. Not all things are helpful considering desired functioning.
     
  4. storch

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    Do you not understand what you have written? You're saying that you don't accept what's normal.
     
  5. ginalee14

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    Curious, where do you pick that up from? There isn't much opportunity around here for me to guide or counsel. But with DL's threads, that's another matter. He blatantly fucks with people when I think, if he's going to discuss religious material, he needs to be legit about it and not troll for the sake of making ass sandwich out of people.
     
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    A noble sentiment, but one I' wouldn't entirely agree with. I think we are animals until and unless we can rise above that and become fully human. What that might involve is another question.
     
  7. ginalee14

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    Fuck me? Didn't you just say you've always been a peaceful person? Peaceful people don't say fuck you to someone, and they don't hold grudges. Get over it, Karen_J.
     
  8. Karen_J

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    Some normal, ordinary things are extremely bad. Human beings can change this. It's the best possible use of our intellect.
     
  9. thedope

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    It comes when you i'm not here for guidance and counsel for one as you counsel what you may or may not be here for.
     
  10. Karen_J

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    You learned something new today.

    Words are different from physical violence. Words are the world where I live.
     
  11. storch

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    Ok, but if we live in a country that makes illegal war--one based on known lies--with another country, how are we, as human beings, going to change this? How will our applied intellect solve this problem?
     
  12. ginalee14

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    I don't think we are animals, at all. I've never thought so and I'll never believe so. It's a false belief that I can't conform to .. no matter how degraded, violent, barbaric and abusive human beings can be. We aren't animals.
     
  13. ginalee14

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    Sorry, I don't understand if you're just being witty or getting at something real.
     
  14. Karen_J

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    We have a hundred thousand gazillion threads on war and politics. I don't have any magic tricks up my sleeve tonight.

    We fit the biological definition of mammals.
     
  15. BlackBillBlake

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    To me it seems patently obvious that we are animals. If you look at our bodies and those of other mammals you will find they are very similar.
    However - we are also much much more than animals, and we have possibilities that a cat or even a monkey doesn't have the least inkling of.
    We could be 'as gods' if only we could find the way.
     
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    If you have mammaries you are a mammal.
     
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    You said that some normal, ordinary things are extremely bad, and that human beings can change this. Since you made the claim, I thought I would take you to task and offer a scenario of an extremely bad thing, and ask you how you believe human beings can change such a thing so that it doesn't happen again.
     
  18. ginalee14

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    To be real honest, I think it's hugely a personal issue for me. There's something about equating humans as animals that really does something to me, not in a good way. I don't think or believe that human beings evolved from ape chimp monkeys in a jungle. I'll never believe that. Never have, never will. There's just something about it. I don't think men are dogs (of war, or pop culture) and I don't think women are tigers. I don't think dog is God backwards. I don't think people are sheep, or sheeple. I know we aren't dophins.

    I understand very well how human beings can share aspects, likeness .. but I cannot, do not and will not, ever, see human beings as animals. It's almost like human being is the one thing that some human beings do NOT want to be. Some people derive a sense of pride, for likening themselves to an animal. It's pop culture, in a lot of ways. I get that. But on a very real level, I can't .. just can't .. see human beings as animals. I can see people as barbaric, degraded .. but I'm gonna say: they're barbaric. They're degraded. I'm NOT gonna say "they're animals". They're not.
     
  19. BlackBillBlake

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    If you want America to stop starting foreign wars, the only solution would be for the American people to rise up and overthrow their masters,the banks, Wall Street, the big corporations, and their instrument the government.
    Back in the day, you got rid of one tyranny, in the form of British imperialism. If you could get rid of this new and far worse tyranny, maybe the rest of the world, or at least initially Europe would follow. But I feel that it is only in America that any big change which would be meaningful for the rest of the world can begin. Certainly not in tired old Europe or the UK.. Not Asia, nor Africa.

    If we had good will, rather then vested interest at the heart of our governments, things might begin to improve. But we aren't ever going to get that under the current status quo.
     
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  20. Karen_J

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    I know that negotiation and diplomacy have prevented wars in the past. No guarantees for the future.

    You need to look at more of the internet.
     

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