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What's the oldest reliable record?

 

Nothing that I know of. We have traced the Scottish clan I'm descended from pretty far back but it doesn't really tell me anything about my own direct lineage as there are a lot of families within one clan.

My mom is an amateur genealogist and she has gotten as far back as the 1600s on her side, and my sister hired someone in Scotland to research my dad's side and they traced it back almost as far. My sister even visited my family's ancestral farm in Scotland (no kings and queens here) that she found through land deeds. But without accurate record keeping it's mostly just guess work.

 

There's a 100 year old book by a guy named Madison Grant. It's anthropology called "The Surpassing of The Great Race" I've mentioned it on and off on these forums.

I'm pretty sure it's outdated and we know how modern scientists love rewriting things so it's probably "scientifically inaccurate" in "theory".

Anyhoo, the first chapter is basically about our head dimensions and facial characteristics and its so pin point accurate.

I'm an alpine Lass, my hair, the dimensions between nose eyes and forehead etc. are all very accurate to his portrayal of cultural facial characteristics.

So if I've any doubts of who I am or where I came from, which I don't doubt, I just need to look in the mirror, the answer is staring me right in the face.

600+ year written history. I should get my mother to take some photographs of our family tree book. She's spent many years now scanning the pages and documents to preserve them. You like the smell of old books you'd love this thing. It's like.. walking into a wood floor and wall pub and smelling centuries worth of beer, sweat and emotion.

 

Don't let em get to you Aeri, ancient poems are some of the best historical records we have for ancient history.

 

Families that owned castles, held titles and such, kept more records.

I can't even get past my 2nd Great Grandfather, born in 1834, entering the USA on one branch of my family.

On the other hand, this branch that I was talking about is well documented up until that iffy point. I mean it's not iffy - we were definitely born from ancestors, lol - Here's one that would be my 75th Great Grandfather. It's
Seleucus I Nicator, King Of Syria
358–281
BIRTH 358 BC • Europus, Macedonia
DEATH SEP 281 BC

10th great-grandfather of husband of wife of 65th great-grandfather.

 

Nobody can get to me.

I'm protected by Gods.

 

I do find it interesting how the Christianity mingles with the Paganism.

Like, for instance,

Anna of Arimathea The Prophetess, sister of Joseph Of Arimathea - Jesus' Tomb
step 7th great-grandmother of 64th great-grandfather

Married
Druid King Beli aka Belenos Mawr the Great of Briton

 

I don't think there's really much originality in Christianity. It's basically comprised of all the old pagan pantheon to suit everybody.

In Norse, in the end a sole male and female emerge from Yggdrasil and the Christians said to the Vikings, that's Adam and Eve. Had nothing to do with no Adam and Eve, but they had to try something to associate a pagan influence, a preparation of sorts for Christianisation.

Almost every epic tale in the bible had already been written in ancient scriptures. The old testament even fucked up at times, using pagan gods like Hades to depict Hell. No wonder it had to be rewritten it was literally all over the place with hypocrisy.

Easter, Xmas, the deluge, Adam and eve, the star in the sky and onward, so far in history compared to the bible had already been spoken about, written about and preached before the bible came along.

Seems to me a typical Christian trait, manipulations.

Thats why I think Snorri Sturlesson was so influential being a Christian himself and deciphering the Eddas for us to read 1500 years or so ago.

It's just when you really read ancient literature, it is so extra terrestrial in it's vivid imagination, that's why I'm always so intrigued that cultures who basically had nothing could even fathom what they were writing about. They didn't know electrical technology yet they wrote about it, knew more about our solar system than we did up until 1970. Quite incredible, not even Jesus knew that shit.

 

Geniuses and Mad Men.

Look at Mozart.

 

what exactly is the santa talk?

 

They tell them that they are Santa's helpers.

 

cbs frosty the snowman last week, red nose reindeer tonight. what do they leave left for December?

 

so is it like a "you're santa's helper, be a good girl" sort of thing then?

 

The best is yet to come: How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Narrated by Boris Karloff

 

That's a great idea! Gonna have to try that this year. I have a list of deserved ones!

 

So you think everybody with royalty is full of it?
My mother has records of royalty in my bloodline that would really give you something to doubt...
But somebody has to play the Doubting Thomas Lol...

 

Never even said that.

 

Dirty Santa 1 and 2

 

Its a stretch to in all seriousness state you base your connection to a legendary or mythological king on genealogy, when it is 100% certain there are no genealogical records. Mythology and genealogy are not the same thing.
Besides, there are some details in Aeri's beliefs about her supposed ancestors that are plain simple unlikely (that king Yngvi came from or was king of Turkey for instance).
I am not trying to get at anyone by stating this btw. I just like this subject a lot