Understanding The New Black Panther Party

True. There are examples of this in all races.

I'd like to become a black panther...in bed, raaawwwrrr!

 

Trust your instincts you were right in the first place, we do look cool, it’s difficult to describe but we have that certain Je ne sais quoi



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This is why we need the New Black Panther Party ...................... :afro:


12/4/2015 RICHMOND, Va. — A federal grand jury has indicted three Virginia men accused of plotting to shoot up or bomb synagogues and black churches.
The Richmond-area men were originally charged last month. A federal magistrate found probable cause to send the case to a grand jury, which returned a three-count indictment Tuesday.

Court records show that Robert C. Doyle, 34; Ronald Beasley Chaney II, 33; and Charles D. Halderman Jr., 30, are charged with a robbery conspiracy. The government claims the men conspired to rob an unnamed silver and coin dealer and use the money to stockpile weapons, buy land and train for a race war.

Doyle and Chaney also are charged with possession of a firearm by a felon and possession of unregistered guns. They previously had faced only gun possession and robbery conspiracy charges.

The men — all of whom have extensive criminal backgrounds, according to the FBI and court records— are being held in jail without bond.



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:rofl: Is that with or without your pants on?

 

In my case both


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Why would you want to be tight with the original Black Panthers? It was an extremely violent organization.

Huey Newton killed a police officer, murdered an 18 year old girl for which he fled to Cuba then sent eight Black Panthers to execute a witness (wrong house, homeowner was armed, bad things happened). A friend quoted him as saying the murder of the 18 year old was his "first non-political murder". His acquittal was based on that same witness smoking pot. Sending 8 executioners, however, pretty much tells us all we need to know about his guilt or innocence (as does the testimony of the few executioners who survived to talk about it).

BP got in shootouts and killed members of rival activist groups. There were many instances of murdering their own members, and when the killers were captured claimed they got their orders directly from Huey Newton or Bobby Seale. They financed their operation through extortion, money laundering, drug sales, robbery, and according to informants in The Nation of Islam, murder for hire. They even killed their own bookkeeper for finding irregularities in their finances. Newton admitted to a friend her ordered her murder. She was also tortured and raped. It appears the leadership was stealing from the organization.

So yes, you're correct in saying that OBP would scare NBPP but they share the exact same beliefs. The demands listed at the beginning of this thread weren't written by the NBPP. It's the list of demands published by the original BPP, almost word for word.

NBPP has resorted to violence, just not on the same scale. For example, two members were convicted of voter intimidation for weilding clubs at a Philly polling station in 2008. it was aired live on national television because they were threatening the reporters who were filming them.

 

I dont really blame the black panther party for violent extreminism back in the 60s. You cant violentally oppress a group of people for so long and then expect them not to answer back with violence. It doesnt work like that. To condemn them kinda shows one doesnt have a full understanding of the historical context.

But I really hope we have all moved past that now. The new generation growing up and coming of age now is increasingly mixed race and racially ambiguous, hopefully that will help.

 

They had the choice of getting on board with Martin Luther King's approach, which was getting better results. The Black Panthers mostly provided white supremacists with propaganda material.

 

Sure they had a choice but if I was treated like a second class citizen my entire life I would be pretty pissed off too - so I choose not to judge their choice.

 

Yeah, I personally can't imagine being one of those students at a lunch counter sit-in back in the sixties (the first one was in Greensboro), getting verbally and sometimes physically abused and not responding in any way. That had to take a tremendous amount of courage and self-discipline.

If you ever go through Selma, Alabama, take that walk across the famous bridge and imagine knowing there's police dogs waiting for you on the other side.

 

Have you ever read Black Boy by Richard Wright? I just finished it and it was really eye opening.

Much of it is about being beaten and belittled by the black community then going out to work in the white community and figuring out the black community treats their own people like that as training for the white world, where you can be killed for expressing any inkling of individuality and free thought.

 

Back in the 60s they were in the midst of a race war, in any war there are going to be casualties

https://youtu.be/IlrRFqWah00



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You're not going to get an answer from Ranger. He has passed away.

 

Sorry to hear that.

 

I get what you're saying about a response to oppression, but If you look at what they actually did you'll find the majority of their victims were black, not white.

 

The same phenomenon occurred with the KKK who lynched more white people than black. They also harassed and extorted money, homes and even some of the fields they used to cook crosses, from white people. It kind of makes sense that gangs tend to prey on their own, a lot of Italians certainly know how that works. It becomes a kind of self-perpetuating loop in some communities. Others are set upon in a short span and adapt quickly to their new masters.

I understand why some gangs are formed. Usually because of some sort of oppression. And in most cases the majority group wants nothing to do with the gangs. But every so often the gangs are tenuously embraced by a community. But it almost always seems to devolve into the usual predator on prey arrangement with full prison rules in effect (like no snitchin).

I think people need to have Jambalaya more often. With garlic bread and harsh red wine.

 

I don’t know where you got your stats from but the currently recognized numbers are an estimated 3,446 blacks and 1,297 whites died at the end of a rope from 1882 to 1964 at the hands of the KKK




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West Point..

 

West Point ...............1950s





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Yes, I've seen that one too. Perhaps I should not have used the term lynched and just went with murdered. The klan particularly hated republicans and ambushed many in their homes. Unfortunately estimates is all we have, but gangs are famous for preying primarily on "their own".