To vaccinate or not to vaccinate???

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/249411.php

A measles outbreak spread in California back in 2008 which was traced to a child whose parents had chosen not to get him vaccinated. After bringing the disease back from Europe, he infected other kids at his doctor's office as well as his classmates. His parent's had signed a personal belief exemption affidavit because they didn't believe in some or all of the immunizations, leaving the child unvaccinated entering school.

 

hey pressed_rat, you hear about the recent case of measles in our city?
i heard there was a death, but i can't find any info of that online. but you can easily find articles about a U of R student who got measles in Europe.

 

breaking news...


www.nytimes.com/Obama-contaminates-grassfedbutter-with-measles-vaccine

 

Page not found mang

 

you didn't look closely enough

 

Must be me, I can't bring it up

 

lol!!

 

they have a pill for that...

 

:smoking:very funny

 

ach! server not found.... fucking local carrier

 

Sometimes, if you stare really long and hard at a url, it will fix itself!

 

Oh fuck me

 

lol this was my best laugh all night!

 

This PBS/Frontline documentary, "The Vaccine War" is worth watching for anyone who feels uncertain about vaccination.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/view/

 

Hahaha. Seriously! This was all awesome... from that "link" on...

 

i have been vaccinated against hepB a total of 6 times.
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http://themetapicture.com/angry-sci...nternet-comment-and-delivers-badass-response/

 

I would like to see vaccination compulsory with only a known medical reason a permissible reason to not have a child immunised. It does not cause autism, etc. It's society gone mad when it listens to celebrities etc before people who have years of training in the sciences.

 

it is unfortunate though that (like with all medicine) there are risks involved with vaccination. the MMRV vaccine carries the highest risk of causing a seizure with approx. 1 in 1,250 people getting one. that's from the CDC website.

but i pretty much agree with your comment. here's a link that you might be interested in, wombatso

http://www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Anti-Vaccine_Body_Count/Home.html

 

I agree with a lot of what he said too but the thing is, that even any "regular" (conventional) doctor will flat out tell you that all vaccines have risks, some more than others...and some vaccines more than others.
I have seen lists of how many children it takes getting a certain vaccination (any of them... they listed for everything from chicken pox to polio) to prevent one child from getting the disease or illness...and how many children it takes getting vaccinated it takes to prevent one DEATH from that illness or disease. It was in a baby mag I got a while ago from a doc's office...unfor I can't really quote any of the stats as I no longer have mag It was interesting though to look at it like... hm, if a certain thing takes 2 million kids getting the vaccine to prevent 30 cases but it prevents zero deaths..... and then if there are some poss serious side effects to the same vaccine, that may be one to either consider skipping OR working on a staggered schedule for that vaccine. (Obviously the flip side- the contrary- to that would be a vaccine that if 15 kids get it (the vaccination) then it prevents 1 case and 250 kids getting prevents a death... obviously more important.

Anyways.... all that information and lots more info is out there... risks. Side effects... possible staggering schedules are out there and some of them can be considered much safer. Some vaccines it is FINE to wait til child is a bit older and not do so many shots at once. One of the only things is, if you do a staggered schedule for some or all you have to keep track of them yourself and may have to remind docs and make sure they are filling in records correctly.

Anyways, I will once again be deciding on a staggered schedule soon. The one thing I do know for sure is I hold off on the hep b vaccine until a later age because none of my kid's are around anyone with hep b, not have any risk of being exposed to it within the first 3 months, 6 months or even 3 years or whatever alt schedule I decide to go on w that one...


That said, there are lots of things that CAN contribute to autism, including (this is something I found out, actually, not just I but the WORLD found out) AFTER my first child was born, have labor induced. I had labor induced because water broke with no contractions for over 12 hours afterwards.... I do believe in that case, it may have been important to induce (risk of infection if labor doesn't start after h2o breaks), but I do feel lucky that my son doesn't have autism. In any case, many things out there that may contribute to autism (not really one CAUSE, that is known- more like a syndrome on a spectrum) but I do not believe vaccines are necc one of them. But that doesn't mean that people can't learn about each indie vaccine, consider different schedules or even which ones to get and at least make an informed decision based on the REAL benefits and risks.