i understand image is all an act. but people getting depressed for social reasons, i mean to the point of dying from failing to see that there is anything else. knowledge is one thing, but you know that's really the trap of the dominant culture. having to sell, because people are told that's the good thing, to make everything have to be about that, and then subconsciously starting to believe what you sell, even if you don't consciously realize it. this is the typical tragedy of human stupidity. most of it not hers. though some of it might have been too. humans seem to like operatic tragedy. maybe i don't choose to 'get' it, because i don't choose to get bit by it.
Themnax, how do you not get bit by something that just attacks you for no reason wherever you are? Did you ever get bullied for no reason at all?...other than being different and not having the same mentality as those around you about some things?
I got bullied starting in grammar school for just being much taller than the others at that age and sticking out like a sore thumb.....and then thatt escalatated to a mind set for others to use me as target practice....good thing i was strong and smart and could survive as well as I did....but it still hurt. i am not quite 5'7" now....so average height is what i became... it starts with kids bullying those that are different as in the case of the dwarfism video I showed...Human nature to be cruel .....I cannot figure out what else that is.
This is so true for many gifted artists: Keats, Van Gogh, Plath, Hendrix, Morrison, Cobain, Winehouse, etc. The world doesn't seem to care much for talent. Money is everything.
i did when i was little of course, my parents just raised me that much different then most other kids. but i also learned from that how much else i could enjoy without having to depend on, or even care about, social acceptance. that loneliness is something i only feel around other people, not when i'm really and completely alone. because when other people aren't distracting me from doing so, and demanding to distract me from doing so, there is a whole universe to occupy my mind, of which human society occupies the same infinitesimally small part of it, as it does of the real physical universe. i just haven't focused my life, since adulthood, that much on being around other people. i mean they're physically there, but they are no more in my life then rocks and trees. so i don't run into bullying, i won't say never, maybe once in ten or twenty years, because i'm just not around people that much. and the people i choose to be around at all, when i do, are people who are into the same kind things, mostly non-social based genre's, that interest me. like model railroading, computers, science fiction and furry. i don't NEED a social mainstream. i find it pointless and boring.
Don’t mean to speak ill of the dead on this beautiful 60 degree Sunday afternoon (the warmest it’s been in 6 months) she's talented and has my utmost respect but...... she really is one….. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1wzQNzttSk Hotwater
I agree with you, themnax.... I am pretty much happiest alone, as well...i don't want to fit in usually....
i went to my 10 year reunion, the only one my class has had at this point. i didn't really "fit in" in high school, but i still got along with most of my classmates well enough that it was interesting to see them and catch up for one night. it probably helped that the reunion occurred during the one year since high school that i was living back in the general area of my hometown. a long commute to the reunion would have made it less appealing.
I switched highschools half way through and had to take two buses to my second one that i switched to. I liked my second high school....it was more advanced and I got along with everyone,(getting along and fitting in are two different things, too...as I was always a loner, too) but I still did not have the roots they all had with each other there.....and that was a little sad....at my first HS...I switched from.,..as i was getting physically bullied.....beaten up...alot....boy, I did not fit in with most of them.....but that was just a continuation and escalatation every year from grammar school. i did got to a reuinion for the second high school. that was interesting and fun for the night...they also had a weekend reuinion get together at the jersey shore. i went to that, as well....That was fun....although not too many people showed up for that.
You make that sound like it's a cruel fate. I think most people are better off for not being famous. Well, I bet there are some folks here who could have a shot at being famous.
I saw her her a few times in SF and San Jose, suckin' on that Southern comfort. Passed each other and said hello once. She made the hair stand up on the back of my neck when her voice projected two different tones at the same time.! I think she was beautiful, but then I have always cared for interesting women and not the Barbie-Doll type. I'm sure Ranger, the Heifer and gang knew her well. She'd be 71 or 72 now, if she had lived.
Didn't Skip publish a book about hippie culture? You know, it's not all about Manson and Ted Bundy. That's only what the conservatives in Indiana and such (think Sarah Palin) would have us believe
Was this before Monterey Pop? I know Janis didn't always look her best before she became famous (hell, she was homeless for months at a time), but she was always lively and intelligent and had a total lust for life, and this gave her a sort of glow I always attribute to greatness. It's something that cannot be bought with money. It's earned by hard work and great talent. P.S. Tried to like your post, but it would appear I am all out of likes for the day
For one thing, you can't let the worst people in your life determine how you live it. And you can't make things better by being a bitter asshole who won't let people move on from their worst behavior. And, if some people treated you like shit and then you became one of the most famous and socially powerful people in the world, I'm pretty sure going and casually being very special in front of them would be one of the most fun things you could do.
But it didn't happen that way, did it? So what's the lesson to be learned? Turn the other cheek? You never struck me as that type...
Well yeah, it did happen that way.... I'm that type in some ways - but this isn't that situation at all. You seem to be saying something to the effect that you should let the worst people you've ever had contact with decide where you go and what you do and how you live. I can't imagine staying away from my own college because of the nastiest people there. Fuck them, it's MY school.