the magnificent border wall

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  1. NotMyRealName

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    Only if the rapist and criminals are also the ones picking the crops. I have never heard any Trump statements that are trying to do away with those that come here to do above board work.

    Only the left seem to want to make crop workers rapist and criminals.
     
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    "only the left seem to want to make crop workers rapists and criminals." Lest you have forgotten---it was your cult leader that used that appellation. Lame try.
     
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  3. NotMyRealName

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    Show me where DT has said thatA)He wants to keep farm workers out and B) Farm workers are implied to be rapist and criminals.
     
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    If the right is so nervous about Mexicans (and other brown folks), then the Bracero program should be re-started.
     
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    Police in Honduras dont like these people.. We should bring the here so they are not oppressed by the evil Honduran government..
     
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    His quote was

    "They’re bringing drugs. They’re bringing crime. They’re rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

    Should be obviously to anyone who isnt racist and ignorant that he was trying to appeal to people's racism and ignorance. The "and some, I assume, are good people" was an afterthought and insinuates that the good people are only a minority, hardly worth noting at all
     
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  7. NotMyRealName

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    Exactly correct what he said. Not one mention of farm workers who come here season after season. The ones bringing in drugs etc aren't coming here as farm workers. The intent for many illegals is solely as drug mules etc. They have no intentions of coming here to work. And yes some come here for good intentions. They would have bo problems if they follow channels to become citizens. That concept seems ti be hard to grasp for the kedt. As long as the left can blend all of them into the same, then we can make it about bigotry and racism.
     
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    So why didnt he phrase it - "they're hard workers and come here to support their families and seek a better life. But some come to engage in criminal activity"

    The way someone speaks does matter. His meaning is clear.
     
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    Because he doesn't have any animosity for the hard workers that come here to do so legally. By the very decision to choose the "illegal" option to come here is the beginning of not knowing why they would do so if they had good intentions.

    The way one chooses to think is the reason this country suffers from PC paralysis.
     
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    Sure, that's why he's working on comprehensive immigration reform that makes it easier and less costly for immigrants to come here legally, rather than focusing on a border wall to keep "them" out

    Oh, wait

    Allow me to rephrase, his meaning is clear to anyone who doesnt see a point in pretending Trump is a decent human being .
     
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    Show me a program he is attempting to do to stop anyone from becoming a legal citizen once we have screened them to determine they are not intending to do us harm. The wall is to keep illegals out.

    Duh.
     
  12. Meliai

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    President Trump Suspends Refugee Program


    www.nbcnews.com/news/amp

    H-1B visa application process to begin today, will face unprecedented scrutiny


    Trump’s Immigration Tweets Followed by Policy Plans to Match

    He's making it harder for skilled workers to obtain visas and you're trying to argue that he cares about poor Mexican farm workers?
     
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    First link. Obama suspended refugees from the same countries in 2011. Was he a racist biggot for the same exact practice?

    2nd link doesn't work.

    3rd link. Yes he is recommending reviewing how it got abused. No disagreement. If you aren't in what is considered a required technical or specialized skill you don't get this category VISA.

    And last link confirms that he is attempting to stop ILLEGAL immigrants from entering the country. Just as has been discussed more than twice now. Is there something about the word ILLEGLAL that the left can't grasp?

    Trump is attempting to close the doors on people coming here for no other purpose than to drain our resources.
     
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    Trump is not racist hes realistic.
     
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    Obama suspended the visa waiver program for people from these countries and ordered a 6 month stop to processing visas for Iraqi citizens in response to a direct and specific threat
    Not the same thing

    The 4th link discusses making it more difficult to file for refugee status, which is a LEGAL process
     
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    They always have a comeback instead of just admitting they arw wrong and coming into the light.

    Lets blame Trump for everything.
     
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    oh I dont think I'm wrong. My original point was that words matter and Trump's statement about Mexicans being rapists was a purposeful appeal to racism and xenophobia. I know I'm right about that.
     
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    Sorry for my part in saying such nasty things about Blump. If I could just punch him in the forehead once or have a slap fight with him--I'd retract every thing I ever------I ever---I ever----Nah. That wouldn't change my animosity for the prick. Childish/ You bet. Makes me feel better. But, that's how we children and mentally ill like it.
     
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    Absolutely no question this is true
     
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    I'll repeat something that I said some time back---too bad Puerto Ricans speak Spanish, to their detriment with this Blump guy in charge. Oooooo--and brown too!! Shame that. Quit speaking Spanish, stay out of the sun and lighten up and you folks will have electricity and water NEXT WEEK.
     

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