Synthetic Marijuana Is A Problem

Discussion in 'Cannabis and Marijuana' started by atsizat9050, Jan 25, 2015.

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  1. Mr.Writer

    Mr.Writer Senior Member

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    You'll get cancer, liver and heart disease, and I won't. This is based on science and data, not your personal feelings.
     
  2. atsizat9050

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    I am done here. Go tell these stupid informations to other druggies. I am done here. Buy yourself some Meth,Crack, Heroine.
     
  3. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    You don't have to get those diseases of course, but the risk on them is seriously larger (as far as we know at this point) if you drink a lot of alcohol on a regular basis. This doesn't mean shooting up heroine or doing crack cocaine instead is the better choice in all cases naturally :D Like with everything one of the most important things is dosage/moderation. Then even alcohol is not that bad.
     
  4. guerillabedlam

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    I had to go through the trouble of signing up for this site, so you may not have to agree with this post but hopefully you appreciate it :p

    I looked further into the study and here is a graph where they have the harm to others and harm to individual criteria separately prior to weighting. You can see ketamine is ranked more harmful than cannabis in harm to user, although not by much. Crack, Heroin and Meth are ranked more harmful to user than alcohol on this graph. I noticed the article mentioned that alcohol was fourth in harm to user, so I figured that other poll wasn't the only data collected.

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    Variables that were included in harm to user were financial cost, as well as stuff like loss of employment, so failed drug tests and money spent on weed may be in part why cannabis is even as high as it is.
     
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  5. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    Thanks for pointing that out. To my mind 'financial harm' is a bit of a dubious thing to have as the criteria for deciding how harmful a drug is.

    If I'm not mistaken it was this report, or one similar to it that led to David Nutt loosing his job as an advisor to the UK govt. on drugs a few years back. I guess they don't want to look at science where drug policy is concerned.
     
  6. guerillabedlam

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    Financial cost is a variable, not the variable of harm to user. They did have other variables as well, which were more to do with toxicity and what not, however I didn't feel the need to post them all. I can still see a bit of issue in dissecting the financial harm to user but I do think it is a worthwhile variable to consider. One would think the correlate naturally associated with financial cost is dependency. While I support cannabis in most ways, I will concede that compared to some of these other drugs which may even be more expensive per dose, people tend to spend WAY more on Cannabis in comparison.

    This variable can perhaps even elucidate the dangers of Natural Weed vs. "Synthetic Weed" situation, particularly while drug tests are lagging on being able to test for Synthetic Cannibinoids.

    I think Nutt got sacked following a previous study, but it was a similar type of study.
     
  7. dopestats

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    This is the difference between someone who is looking for an answer, and someone who is trolling. It always pays to take a closer look at things @atsizat9050. That's what we're here for is to find the information you seek together
     
  8. newbie-one

    newbie-one one with the newbiverse

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    Did you just say, "Nutt got sacked"?
     
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  9. atsizat9050

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    Sorry I just dont follow those kinds of stupid writtings. You can believe those bullshit writtings, I dont. You get it? No wonder that stupid person got kicked out of his job. I am sure drinkinking coca cola must be more harmful than ecstasy pills hahaha. I like the way you druggies talk. Funny.
     
  10. atsizat9050

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    First of all there is no such thing as ecstasy. I mean ecstasy pills may contain anything. No drug dealers sell ecstasy pills which contains just MDMA. If you only want to do MDMA, you will have to make your own ecstasy pill, You won't get it from drug dealers. And same, if you want to do pure cocaine, you will have to make your own cocaine. You won't get it from drug dealers.
     
  11. guerillabedlam

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    You make a good point in that these drugs can often be adulterated, however Ecstasy pills are sold by drug dealers only containing MDMA.
     
  12. atsizat9050

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    No drug dealers sell ecstasy pills containg just MDMA where I live. Most of the pills dont have any MDMA here at all. But druggies use anything they can find. Everything is to be high.
     
  13. guerillabedlam

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    Ok, well that study was conducted in the UK.
     
  14. BlackBillBlake

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    I didn't assume that financial cost was the only variable they used. No doubt it's a factor, but to my mind the main factors to take into account would be the physical or mental harm done by a particular substance.
    Society and the economic realities can change, but the toxicity or non-toxicity of a given drug remains a constant.
     
  15. AceK

    AceK Scientia Potentia Est

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    Nuttsacked ... ;p
     
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    I desiced to keep it on the top. I can't seem to give up talking about such an horriable drug.
     
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  20. NoxiousGas

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    well you may as sit in front of a mirror because you will be talking to yourself.
     
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