Synthetic Marijuana Is A Problem

At least not by experience. Seems like a good thing.

 

https://www.contributoria.com/issue/2015-01/54627d77759c139101000101
One more writting about it

 

Synthetic weed seems like a good thing? Oh my fucking God!!!!
I put some writtings about it if you'd care to read!

 

You misinterpret me there. It is a good thing I have no experience with it.

I probably won't bother to read any stuff from other sites regarding this subject. But it is your thread so put in it what you like I guess. I only am interested at this point in what parts of synthetic weed are synthetic. I could look that up myself.

 

I think the whole idea of synthetic weed is stupid, and is probably a result of the prohibition, the war on drugs.

Why, when there's such an amazingly wide range of natural cannabis bother to create a synthetic? Unless it's easier and quicker to produce. I just can't see that it's going to be in any way superior to what nature (with a little help from selective breeding) produces already.

I haven't tried it anyway, and doubt I ever will.

 

Exactly my initial thought on this matter. People must only bother with it because they can't get good real pot... or because it indeed is cheaper (either to make or to buy it, or both). Otherwise I don't see the point.

 

In turkey real weed is very low quality, you cant get high. I smoked real weed many times and it was like I was smoking tobacco deeply. The effect is that low. I drink alcohol and get drunk.

 

Alternatively, people who are being drug tested may turn to synthetic weed to avoid detection.


Part of the reason cannabis is so safe is due to the combination of cannabinoids in the plant. Other than THC you have CBD, CBN, CBC etc. Which all have different effects, ranging from pain-relief, to anti-microbial properties, to anti-inflammatory etc.

I saw this study a little while back and thought it was pretty interesting:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24385629

"Pregnenolone is considered the inactive precursor of all steroid hormones, and its potential functional effects have been largely uninvestigated. The administration of the main active principle of Cannabis sativa (marijuana), Δ(9)-tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), substantially increases the synthesis of pregnenolone in the brain via activation of the type-1 cannabinoid (CB1) receptor. Pregnenolone then, acting as a signaling-specific inhibitor of the CB1 receptor, reduces several effects of THC. This negative feedback mediated by pregnenolone reveals a previously unknown paracrine/autocrine loop protecting the brain from CB1 receptor overactivation that could open an unforeseen approach for the treatment of cannabis intoxication and addiction."


So to cut that down to slightly more simple terms. THC releases pregnolone in the brain, due to its action on the CB1 receptors. That pregnolone then diminishes the effects of THC by inhibitng the CB1 receptor. Meaning that cannabis regulates its own high to some degree, keeping your receptors from getting overly stimulated.

So I agree that synthetic cannabis tends to be more dangerous - and not like cannabis. Plants are mixtures of multiple compounds, not just one pure drug. The synthetic blends are usually a couple of cannabinoids at most. And very likely, those cannabinoids have not been studied for interactions. Most of them probably haven't even been studied alone.


What could be done is to regulate the sale of these legal synthetics. In New Zealand there was an attempt to regulate synthetic cannabinoid smoke blends, however the last I heard was that none of them had been approved for sale. (Maybe these legal smoke blend distributors found out that it is actually pretty expensive to run trials on substances, lol). Then at least people would know what they are smoking and in which doses. But then it would be easier just to legalize cannabis, wouldn't it.


Anyway, you can't jump from possible danger to the conclusion that people will stab each other. Nor can you assume that just because you feel like your organs are melting that they are.

I actually think I saw a study a little while back which had discovered anti-tumor properties from one of the synthetic cannabinoids. No drug is inherently evil, it's all about dose and purity. (Set and setting too, depending on what you are taking).

 

In last one year quite many people have died from synthetic weed overdose due to the heart attack in turkey. Synthetic weed takes quite place in news. Its the most common illegal drug here for a few years. Until a few years ago, real weed used to be common. Right now it is like if one drug dealer sell real weed, 10 drug dealers sell synthetic weed. Its like that. And real weed is so low quality.

 

Let me summarize this thread. While alcohol and tobacco have a much greater impact on our society and number of deaths as a whole, one hit of synthetic drugs like synthetic weed can produce undersirable effects, as some have reported. In the OPs home country of Turkey, there have been many reported deaths last year related to synthetic weed, although none have been confirmed to be the direct result of using synthetic weed and no specific products or brands have been named. Therefore, has anyone tried synthetic weed, and did you experience bizarre/undesirable symptons such as the desire to stab someone, a racing heart rate, or similar? Does that about sound right?

 

I cant stand these nonesenses, sorry. You even never smoked synhethic weed, you are fucking talking about it like you know it. Synhetic weed is not cannabis. It is not something like that. It is not a fucking thing like cannabis. They all fucking died of synhetic weed ovordose. It was obvious. Synhetic weed is not something like cannabis. You should fucking understand this. Dont talk about things you dont know, okay. Just smoke your cannabis. Synhetic weed is not like something you are imagining. Also, its not orginal spice, K2, its just what drug dealers make. Its much too far from being original. This is the second fucking thing you should try to get it. Its just a very bad deadly toxic. Its not even a real drug, its just toxic . What the fuck do you think are you talking about? People use it because it's fucking cheap. It's the cheapest illegal drug here. As far as I heard america had a problem with METH? Am I right? Synhetic weed is our meth. When you think of it that way, maybe you can make a more logical comment. We dont have Meth in turkey, we have synhetic weed here instead of meth. Try to think of it that way. You had meth in america, we have synhethic weed in turkey ( if you are american) Am I making more sense into your head right now? Besides, meth would be much more of a drug than synhethic weed as this synhetic weed is just a toxic. At least I would have much better high on meth, unlike that bullshit synhethic weed. While other drugs make you happy, synhetic weed gets you into death trips. It gives no happiniess but scary death trips.

 

Ive smoked synthetic weed and never had the desire to stab someone.

However, I did get stabbed by someone on synthetic weed. I think it had more to do with the persons mental problems though and less about synthetic weed. some people just shouldn't do drugs period, no kind of drug except psychiatric drugs because they are mentally unstable.

 

Pure human curiosity, to experience an altered consciousness, for fun, to fit in, to feel alive, to rebel, I could go on for pages. Same reasons as why would someone buy a sports car or why would anyone try anal sex. You have one life my friend, and altered states of being are an incredibly powerful part of that life which tragically all too many people have been brainwashed into fearing.

Let's not kid ourselves into believing that these drugs are anywhere near as dangerous as countless activities and substances endorsed by society. You wanna talk about "peer pressure"? Lets look at what's legal and endorsed.

It's especially ironic and indicative of your poor understanding of the matter that you are constantly praising alcohol and tobacco for not making you feel like you're having a heart attack, when in fact the best and most reliable way to have a real, actual, aversive cardiac event, and not just a sensation caused by a drug and your own panic, is to participate in the culturally sanctioned orgy of alcohol and tobacco which is clogging up arteries, emergency rooms, and cemeteries, as we speak.

 

Well obviously. Synthetic weed =/= weed. They contain different chemicals with different properties. But like I know some "synthetic" chemicals that I would take, and some "natural" ones that I wouldn't.

 

Maybe your just a lightweight. You should probably just get some REAL weed. It truly is lame to smoke synthetic weed. Get a real drug!

 

I think this kind of (mis)information can be bad in regards to these novel synthetics. These are "real drugs." Portraying them as otherwise can lead the naive into thinking what they are doing is benign, particularly if they are legal.

 

that sucks that you dont have access to good weed atsizat, i have often wondered what i would do if i was in that situation because i do like to travel alot and some places, like where you live, you only get shitty brick weed. i think i would try to find hash, and if thats not possible i would make edibles. and if you like alcohol, you can soak some weed in really strong alcohol for a few weeks and strain it and make an awesome drink that gets you high.

 

btw, this is a little unrelated but, how do you get weed in your country? and can you grow it? and how strict are they about alcohol and weed over there? i heard turkey is a Muslim country and in America all they show on the news is muslims chopping off heads and burning people.

 

Weed is low quality, it doesnt get you high. And also illegal. Drug dealers sell in street in illegal ways. But alcohol is legal, I can drink alcohol in front of police. It is a problem if you get caught with weed. And in turkey weed is common in turkey. Alcohol and Tobacco is very common here as they are legal. And the most common illegal drug is synthetic weed because real weed is very low quality.