Synthetic Marijuana Is A Problem

uhhmm, yeah, ok......
do you have any idea how much crap is added to tobacco???????

http://www.tricountycessation.org/tobaccofacts/Cigarette-Ingredients.html#list

http://www.quitsmokingsupport.com/whatsinit.htm

Cigarette Maker Now Lists Ingredients For the first time, an American tobacco company has begun listing long-secret ingredients contained in its cigarettes directly on the label. Yesterday, Liggett Group Inc. introduced cartons that the company plans to begin using that list the ingredients in its L&M cigarettes, including molasses, phenylacetic acid and the oil of the East Indian mint called patchouli. The move comes as the state of Massachusetts is trying to compel disclosure of all ingredients by all cigarette makers, an effort that other major tobacco companies are fighting.
Liggett, which broke with the industry by signing the first settlements ever with states and private attorneys suing it, supports the Massachusetts effort as well. "Liggett believes that its adult consumers have a right to full disclosure," Liggett head Bennett S. LeBow said in a statement. Along with blended tobacco and water, the 26-item L&M list includes high fructose corn syrup, sugar, natural and artificial licorice flavor, menthol, artificial milk chocolate and natural chocolate flavor, valerian root extract, molasses and vanilla extracts, and cedarwood oil. Less familiar additives include glycerol, propylene glycol, isovaleric acid, hexanoic acid and 3-methylpentanoic acid.

http://www.drugwarfacts.org/cms/causes_of_death#sthash.Wm517cmC.dpbs

(Alcohol-Induced Mortality 2010) "In 2010, a total of 25,692 persons died of alcohol induced causes in the United States (Tables 10, 12 and 13). This category includes deaths from dependent and nondependent use of alcohol, and also includes deaths from accidental poisoning by alcohol. It excludes unintentional injuries, homicides, and other causes indirectly related to alcohol use, as well as deaths due to fetal alcohol syndrome (for a list of alcohol-induced causes, see 'Technical Notes').
"The age-adjusted death rate for alcohol-induced causes for the total population increased 2.7 percent from 7.4 in 2009 to 7.6 in 2010 (Internet Tables I-5 and I-6). For males, the age-adjusted death rate for alcohol-induced causes in 2010 was three times the rate for females. Compared with the rate for the white population, the rate for the black population was 26.3 percent lower.
"Among the major race-sex and race-ethnic-sex groups, the age-adjusted death rate increased in 2010 from 2009 for white males (4.3 percent), AIAN [American Indian/Alaskan Native] males (19.9 percent), and non-Hispanic white males (4.5 percent). No other major race-sex and race-ethnic-sex groups experienced significant changes."



Source:
Sherry L. Murphy, BS; Jiaquan Xu, MD; and Kenneth D. Kochanek, MA, Division of Vital Statistics, "Deaths: Final Data for 2010," (Atlanta, GA: Centers for Disease Control), Vol. 61, Number 4, May 8, 2013, p. 18.
http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr61/nvsr61_04.pdf

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  (Drug Overdose Deaths in the US and Involvement of Pharmaceutical Drugs, 2010) "In 2010, there were 38,329 drug overdose deaths in the United States; most (22 134; 57.7%) involved pharmaceuticals; 9429 (24.6%) involved only unspecified drugs. Of the pharmaceutical-related overdose deaths, 16,451 (74.3%) were unintentional, 3780 (17.1%) were suicides, and 1868 (8.4%) were of undetermined intent. Opioids (16,651; 75.2%), benzodiazepines (6497; 29.4%), antidepressants (3889; 17.6%), and antiepileptic and antiparkinsonism drugs (1717; 7.8%) were the pharmaceuticals (alone or in combination with other drugs) most commonly involved in pharmaceutical overdose deaths. Among overdose deaths involving opioid analgesics, the pharmaceuticals most often also involved in these deaths were benzodiazepines (5017; 30.1%), antidepressants (2239; 13.4%), antiepileptic and antiparkinsonism drugs (1125; 6.8%), and antipsychotics and neuroleptics (783; 4.7%)."
  
  
  
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  Christopher M. Jones, PharmD, Karin A. Mack, PhD, and Leonard J. Paulozzi, MD, "Pharmaceutical Overdose Deaths, United States, 2010," Journal of the American Medical Association, February 20, 2013, Vol 309, No. 7, p. 658.
  http://jama.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=1653518
  
  
  
  
  
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  (Estimated Annual Number of Deaths Caused by Tobacco Use in the US) "The 2014 Surgeon General's report estimates that cigarette smoking causes more than 480,000 deaths each year in the United States.1 This widely cited estimate of the mortality burden of smoking may be an underestimate, because it considers deaths only from the 21 diseases that have been formally established as caused by smoking (12 types of cancer, 6 categories of cardiovascular disease, diabetes, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease [COPD], and pneumonia including influenza). Associations between smoking and the 30 most common causes of death in the United Kingdom in the Million Women Study suggest that the excess mortality observed among current smokers cannot be fully explained by these 21 diseases.2
  
  
  
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  Brian D. Carter, M.P.H., Christian C. Abnet, Ph.D., et al., "Smoking and Mortality — Beyond Established Causes," New England Journal of Medicine, Feb 12, 2015;372:631-40. DOI: 10.1056/NEJMsa1407211.
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  (Alternative Estimate of Total Number of Deaths In the US Caused By Tobacco Use) "Our results suggest that the Surgeon General's recent estimate of smoking-attributable mortality may have been an underestimate. The Surgeon General's estimate, which took into account only the 21 diseases formally established as caused by smoking, was that approximately 437,000 deaths among adults are caused each year by active smoking (not including secondhand smoke). However, the Surgeon General’s report presents an alternative estimate of 556,000 deaths among adults on the basis of the excess mortality from all causes. The difference between these two estimates is nearly 120,000 deaths.1 If, as suggested by the results in our cohort, at least half of this difference is due to associations of smoking with diseases that are causal but are not yet formally established as such, then at least 60,000 additional deaths each year among U.S. men and women may be caused by cigarette smoking."
  
  
  
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http://www.csdp.org/ads/causes.htm

not even gonna get started on alcohol deaths....

 

Weird, why both?

What would this add?

I do have a pack of L&M in this house

 

Oh my God, here we go again. I give up. Okay tobacco and alcohol are as deadly as synthetic weed and rat poison. I give up. I cant stand this nonesense any more. I cant even come to understand how you compare this synthetic shit that contains rat poison and such things with alcohol and tobacco. I get bored of your nonsenses. I give up. Yeah tobacco and alcohol are also more harmful than meth . Much less people die of meth and crack. Yeah alcohol and tobacco are more harmful than meth, crack, everything. I give up. I cant stand those nonsenses.

 

guess you missed the part about arsenic being in tobacco....gee what else is arsenic used for?????

RAT POISON!!!!

go away you moronic troll

 

When I smoke tobacco or drink Alcohol, I dont feel like I am having a heart attack, I dont feel like my organs are melting going down. I dont feel like my organs are boiling at 150 degrees. I dont feel my heart melt down towards my liver. My tension doesnt get high like that. I dont feel like my heart is gonna stop any time and die. Synhetic weed is too fucking bad. I tried it and I know how fucking bad it is to smoke it. You feel very close to death like you could have a heart attack any minute. You feel your organs fucked up when you smoke that fucking synthetic shit. All those happen with synhetic weed. I am fucking telling you that synthetic weed is not something like alcohol and tobacco. Get it? You feel your organs fucked up like your organs are melting,boiling at high degrees when you smoke this scary drug. Its so bad.

 

dude, one time I felt like I was gonna have a heart attack on real weed. all of a sudden I just laid down on the floor and this dude was like wtf are u doing? I was like, "I can't move or I'll have a heart attack"

it's a panick attack from getting too high.

I'm not gonna say synthetic weed is safe ... I'll say that I don't know if it's safe or not. I dont have any reason to believe it's highly dangerous except for a few horror stories I've read but most of those were cases where it wasn't really clear what exactly the person took or what other drugs they were on.

 

yeah, sure, whatever........
get over it already

not one single person here would disagree that synthetic cannabinoids are crap and potentially dangerous, but the rest of the crap you spout is utter stupidity.
only a complete idiot would think alcohol and tobacco are not harmful.
you still haven't produced any statistics concerning deaths related to these synthetic cannabinoids, until then,
STFU

 

if u feel that crazy when u smoke it then ur probably smoking too much. some of its so potent that u only need a tiny crumb.

I'd smoke some, but only a little bit, and I'd defintely start with only the tiniest hit possible because you never know what it's gonna be like.

the original stuff with jwh chems was actually pretty badass and in a way I liked it better than some weed. I don't know what's commonly in it these days anymore, but the chems just get more obscure. pure jwh-018 was badass.

 

Sounds to me like you should stop smoking that shit... Seriously.

 

I'm not sure what the OPs point is, if u don't like how you feel when your on it then just don't do it, problem solved. not everyone gets the same effects, some people's brains are wired a little different. some people are more likely to feel fear, or paranoia on certain chems

I doubt it's any worse than some of the other RC's .. certainly not as bad as some of the RC stims people do. dopaminergic stimulants are almost always pretty neurotoxic.

no one is forcing you to smoke it.

 

The person who smoked everyday told me that he'd have a very short time, they know how it is too bad. They just dont care about getting sicked or die. The point is this so my question was that if most of them can easily stab a person or not? They dont care if they'll die in a few years. I guess there are about like 3 overdoses in a month usually from synthetic weed in turkey, where I live. Death happens because of heart attacks. Synthetic weed is the most common drug in turkey because its the cheapest illegal drug.

 

I got away from druggies smoking this shit.

 

How about that you feel your organs are boiling at high degrees and melting and going down your body. This is not normal. Your body gets fucked when you smoke it, very bad things happen to your organs.Obiviosly its too bad.

 

Its just that whether most of those people who do such bad drugs can stab a person easily or not. This was why I opened this thread acually.

 

Alcohol and tobacco are probably 200 times less harmful than synthetic weed. You can understand it with the effect that shit is giving you.

 

Chuck them out and buy some additive free baccy if you're going to smoke. It's still bad, but at least it's not full of synthetic chemicals.

 

Without some solid facts based on research to back this up, you're wasting your time.

If you don't like synthetic weed, simply leave it alone.

 

Although this might not be the thread for it .... any recommendations? I don't smoke a lot of cigs happily, but as a dutchie I do often put tobacco (rolling tobacco, not cigs) in my joints.

 

Manitou, Pueblo, American Spirit. All are good, Manitou is the best IMO.

American spirit do ready made ciggies as well as tobacco for rolling.

I'm trying to get completely off tobacco, and only smoke the odd joint with it.

 

American spirit got recommended to me before! By a mildly concerned older lady while we both had to wait at a train station.

Me too. I've been thinking of switching to a pipe or bong but so far joints are just really my preferred way. Last pipe I had was so shitty, it got hot while using it too long. You could barely hold it