Speaking In Tongues

Please accept my gift i am here for our communal reasons. Meet me as the person you want to meet and you will find what you want in an instant
This is the nature of the miraculous that a single clear thought can change the entire mind of the planet. No more ignorance, no more boredom or disinterest. The mind occupied in acquiring knowledge is in it's natural estate to taste and to know. It is very poor at formulating opinions from limited information. To much speculation not enough observation. A waste of the prerogatives and actual discerning power of our mind.

I am a person you think you recognize from history but is in fact speaking to you right now.
John Dee (13 July 1527 – 1608 or 1609) was a mathematician, astronomer, astrologer, occult philosopher, and adviser to Queen Elizabeth I. He devoted much of his life to the study of alchemy, divination and Hermetic philosophy.
Dee straddled the worlds of science and magic just as they were becoming distinguishable. One of the most learned men of his age, he had been invited to lecture on advanced algebra at the University of Paris while still in his early twenties. Dee was an ardent promoter of mathematics and a respected astronomer, as well as a leading expert in navigation, having trained many of those who would conduct England's voyages of discovery.
Simultaneously with these efforts, Dee immersed himself in the worlds of magic, astrology and Hermetic philosophy. He devoted much time and effort in the last thirty years or so of his life to attempting to commune with angels in order to learn the universal language of creation and bring about the pre-apocalyptic unity of mankind. A student of the Renaissance Neo-Platonism of Marsilio Ficino, Dee did not draw distinctions between his mathematical research and his investigations into Hermetic magic, angel summoning and divination. Instead he considered all of his activities to constitute different facets of the same quest: the search for a transcendent understanding of the divine forms which underlie the visible world, which Dee called "pure verities".

This text as it appears in wikipedia states that I was an imperialist but personal empire was not my interest but our expanding our apprehension or our natural world. i was close to the seat of power to accomplish those aims not to build political empire. So I deleted it here.

 

Are you saying you were Dee in a past life?

 

speaking in tongues will of course have dialects . i have heard several . one i might
describe as Klingon Wookie phonetically utilizes an abundance of g's and k's and
consonantal y's . people inclined to favor more angelic tones can summarily dismiss
it as too rude , that is , oppositional .

 

Great! Different strokes for different folks.

 

What may work for one may not work for another...pretty darn simple if you ask me,

 

No matter stylistic preferences , the intent is to speak universally . are you listening ?
there is a language that is in all the world . raven may speak like a man .

as for writing ? it's much more difficult . perhaps the geometry of crop circles
is as well as it ever gets done .

 

music is the universal language

 

'ood you express that lyrically ? h ? tit tit

 

whatever

 

Visual art is a universal language too.

 

Yes, you are so right! ....and again...different strokes for different folks...someone may absolutely love a painting, and another not so much......
I said to my mom one day....I love that I can do art....as even when I am old gray ugly to some...I can still create something of beauty.....she was touched by that....although some may not like my art...it makes no difference...that is ok, too...

 

First i am saying that we never die and we have all been here since the beginning. So to say in a past life would be far from the actual situation. Just briefly then to gain perspective. We are only twelve and we exist as what you could call personality traits and these you can find reference for in astrology. Each of our personalities produce iterations of self we refer to as individual and these represent some aspect of desire of the host personality. there is another entity in our system which we refer to as the sun. that entity does not inhabit cold bodies but communicates providentially with everything in the system so we have a guide.

Then I am saying that just very recently, in the past week I have I can't say discovered because I wouldn't know where to look to discover this stuff, but more it is being fed to me for a transcendental purpose. To survive our coming and at hand global transformation. A sort of ark of endurance for our species as the individual contesting expressions blow themselves out or up. From this space i was shown some of my personal connections across time and john dee is one of those. that revelation came after this one,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_(given_name).
The second, john dee came in direct relation to the lengthy movie I posted called the transcendental object at the end of time featuring terence mckenna, and including john lilly .Interestingly my son started referring to me as jondhi as a play off of gandhi about three months ago.

I can also tell you that with your current name and regional location of where your family hails from i can access our store of common experiences which are ensconced in the gene, and introduce you to historical figures with which you can personally relate to or that you will feel a personal affinity for. Each and every one of us has famous faces in history, we have all been up and we have all been down, on top and on the bottom and everywhere in between. Celebrity is a thin shadow of the sensational being that you really are.

You can't imagine how insecure it makes me feel to flop around in what appears to be an enormously egotistical manner on this forum and it takes some courage on my part to say these things but they are things that i cannot truthfully deny considering the abundantly synchronous things that have been occurring in and around me. ia m sharing because this is your information to have in assisting our whole group like I say to survive and prosper in this new millennium in which all old paradigms of association are being wiped out.

The movie I posted is a comprehensive primer describing all that is happening to us except i have some additional information about some of the things terence had questions on. And a few refinements on the historical account like for example that I had imperialist leanings which i do not.

So I am undergoing an alchemical transformation that is producing bizzare effects like the fact that i am taking no food. I drink constantly hot water and it is as I were using the light gas of the cosmos, hydrogen in combination with the combustible gas of metabolism oxygen to synthesize this production. All of the technical information needed has already been posted in this thread in combination with this
http://www.hipforums.com/forum/topic/464849-esoteric-hidden-knowledge/
Right now I am devoting my time to answering questions and I have been teaching people how to access their own fundamental language. Which is why I confronted you the way I did to start loosening the grip of habitual associations so that you begin to start making real time assessments instead of comparing and compartmentalizing our apprehension of phenomena as they related to a picture you have about the entire course of your life. About by definition is an approximation so we never have the opportunity to firmly affix our position in space in time because we are associating our truly relative position with the abstract apprehension that exist only self in self reference.

 

Actually the ability for language is universal and every spec of matter can be referred to with a tonal association and that is how we are able to experience the sensations we are referring to. It is possible to intone bread for example. So there is a lot that people have not known about our abilities with language or what it even is in substance.

 

thedope, was that a fart of yours in the sky last night? i saw a huge gassy ark that would not go away....? LOL

 

How did you distinguish the gas cloud form the ambient cloud of atmospheric gases and how did you make this distinction in the dark? I take your drift though. i apologize to all you for my seemingly annoying persistence but if I don't move it out of me it feel like the rocks are crying out. The only saving grace of this whole affair is the very substantial quality of the information being acquired. The behavior makes me look like a fucking fool or that is what it feels like from my perspective. As to the john dee situation one way you can positively relate to it is to look at my personal situation in accordance with the habits you have seen me present. For example the constant production of fortune cookie sayings which emerge constantly in every day conversation, they just come out of my mouth. Another is my actual living situation which is somewhat cloistered in in contact with nature. Of particular fascination is that in the movie it is stated that john dee had access to an eclectic library from which he could choose to research any subject he cared to investigate and I too had this same advantage in that I dropped out of school very early for the very purpose of selecting my own curriculum.

 

oh, for pete's sakes!
Do you ever like humor? I do...
i was simply being humorous. I do not think you a fool or anything else.
I wrote about this ark in the random facts about you thread. i really do not know what it was...it felt alienish.

 

You've taken time to reply and I'm not exactly sure how to respond. But a couple of things come to mind.

First of all, I'm familiar with TM's ideas about the transcendental object at the end of time. I've also seen his film about Dee and the Winter King. I also know a little about Dee and his career.
Maybe there's something in the idea of an attractor pulling things forward, sending scintilla back in time I suppose it's possible. However I have no grounds on which to say it's correct or not. I think it's an interesting speculation.

I'm quite capable of finding my own connections to the human past if I wish to. It's all there for anyone who has the right key in their hand. I don't identify myself with any historical figures. Nor do I think it's a good idea to do that. Whatever experience you have, there are always different possible interpretations or explanations.
What I mean is that if I had an experience where I suddenly felt myself to be an ancient Egyptian, that's not to say I was that person in a previous life. There are other ways the experience can be accounted for.

Whatever, I can see you are on a mission Dope. I would advise caution, and an avoidance of making assumptions based on too little data. You say you want to introduce people to fundamental language. But many of us already know many languages. Some of them we don't even know we know. How subtle signs are conveyed. The languages of music, art, movement.Non verbal languages only the body knows. Bio chemical messengers.

All we have here is the typed word and copy and paste.

 

I was not previously aware of mkennas theories nor of the existence of a man named john dee. these things just transpired in the last week or so.. The only reason i found out is this phenomena is that it is an absolutely communal involvement in this enterprise. In other words if we all weren't conspiring to accomplish this transformation. I am not at all the locus of this phenomena, but just happen to be the one with the vocabulary to present it.

Here is another interesting feature of how we present to ours selves is that we always appear in sets of three which reflects the three qualities of matter and these combine to make one complete statement. in reference to myself you would see john the baptist, john the brother of jesus and jesus. John the baptist baptizes jesus and jesus s succeeded in life by john his brother. the same presentation is observable in our current time in the form of john lilly, terence mckenna and johnny oliver. Lilly and oliver represent a plant family that is referenced by things like consider the lilies of the field. the name oliver means bearer of the olive branch. As you see in the movie terence yields to lilly as his beginning motivation and I find myself yielding to the information provided by terence. Both of these have since dis incorporated and in the same order as before. I have been just falling into this information as though it's revelations are being choreographed by something that is more fundamentally aware and I am being directed to the information and terence is explaining things in way that I couldn't in t his particular field of interest to be academically certified.i.e. jesus baptized or certified by john b.Specific mention of this phenomena was presented in the story of jesus' baptism where he says it is fitting that it should be this way I am much more of an intuitive or poetic figure.and I haven't been privy to the pharmacological variety that he has access to. the synthesis of these two presents the hard and soft science/? components of our single being at large both informed by breath and the physical manifestation of it.

Why do you not think it is a good idea and what makes you think you have fully assessed your capabilities in life in light of what I am saying? On what basis do you make this determination? It is a good idea if you want to contribute to your understanding of self. this attitude seems remarkably self limiting as though you had discovered every eventuality of your life before it actually occurs.. Fact is you simply are relating it with the personal experience of your life's conclusions about things. I do not apprehend that you can do what you claim you can and the obvious clue is that you don't even think the conception of such a thing is valuable. I think you posit these things to neglect taking a serous look at your foundations. I get the impression that you feel you are at an advantage somehow over me in the understanding of this subject but you are simply out of your league in your current condition. That can be remedied in an instant depending on your ability to find essential interest in the subject.

I take your advice of caution and I am not outpacing what I actually comprehend. I am not one to make unsubstantiated claims as can be gleaned form the rigor of my conversations throughout my history on this forum. the most important thing missed in this exchange is that you are participating subconsciously in this world wide unfoldment with equal vigor.
As far as seperate languages they are dialects of the fundamental ability to speak and the kind of language I am talking about transcends those colloquial divisions. in turn bill I would caution against excluding information because it doesn't fit the particular paradigm you have developed for yourself. I have a personal advantage in that I spent years burning out my conditioning and challenging basic assumptions about life. I have the further temporary advantage of being able do devote to my field of study without distraction. meaning it is the only ambitious endeavor that i posses. your reflective reverie about past lives is a thin and vaguely construed representation of what I am talking about.

in summation with the final point you bring up, it is a grievous error on the face of it to say all we have here is copy and paste when the copy and paste were provided as reference to the live dialogue. This is a profound distortion of perception as you see. What you are faced with is not my ability to provide significant and substantiated fact but that it confronts your ability to transcend your previous gestalt.

 

As to my claim that I can find relatives in time it is not something I am confident I can do but i am informed that I can and it was very adamant that i should provide this route so that others can see for themselves the fundamental connections. i assume it represents a self reflective emotional presentation.

One other curious bit of information is that my ability to spell words is suffering greatly and words that I normally can spell without thinking become unfathomable somehow. For example the adamant in the above paragraph I had to rework at least six times to make it comprehensible to me. I think there might be more coming on the subject of language ability.

 

in line with this subject we are all each of us one of the twelve apostles to the sun/son