Should All Schools Be Mandated To Teach Creationism?

We are our only measure not to be confused that your measurement is the only one that counts. It is where we find essential agreement that understanding is reached or it is put on the books so to speak and because being is ongoing we can expect revisions from time to time. A wise man taking from his stores some of what is old and some of what is new.

The belief in a creator motif is inspired by certain self reflections. One that being alive is good or we have the expectation for it and another taking that recognition personally or understanding that we are effectively real, (climate change.) We are conceived through a measure of caring and find our nearest progenitors have also the fondest expectations for the good unfoldment of our life. We are microcosm of the macrocosm and we've only just begun to learn of our capacities to express on this grand cooperative scale.

 

Yes, I know. I simply posted about my own opposition to mandated teaching of ANY religion in school. All that should be taught in school is language arts, science(that includes math and evolution), social skills, sexual education, logical/rational thinking, and history. Maybe even humanism............."a system of values and beliefs that is based on the idea that people are basically good and that problems can be solved using reason instead of religion".

The bottom line is that people shouldn't be force fed religion and should be allowed(no........encouraged) to learn about all modern religions so they can find the religion that suits them best. As for myself..........atheism, logic, and scientific facts suit me best.

 

Gnosticism from the greek meaning, "learned knowledge"
Stop treating symbols as religious icons devoid of substantial meaning upheld only by irrational belief.
Every symbol we use has an experiential conjugation associated with it.
You will learn a new language referred to in esoteric circles as keys to the kingdom.

Actually it appears moral instruction to the moralist who thinks you have a debt to pay. It is actually a description of the dynamics of personal perception. A fact about the way you individually perceive value and proportion. In this sense you give the world all the meaning it has for you. On this basis why would you ever judge against what you see adopting a world model that is hostile to you?

 

I find divinity in buddhism in it's beauty and authoritative observations. I think you are confusing your religious beliefs with the substance of my explanations. The creator in buddhism, or the source of suffering is mental association.

An authority is that which we invoke
God is that we we invoke and in this is the synonymous meaning.

 

to mandate the teaching of the lie of creationism would be evil itself. to teach anything which cannot be known in the physical world, that cannot be observed by honest science, to remain within the bounds of honesty and morality, must carry the very large warning label, that it is beyond the point where all things become speculation.

you say your faith is confirmed by its power. yes i have seen this power. it is the power to destroy. yes i have seen it overcome all means to prevent destruction. but is it power to do anything other then destroy? show me where it can do anything other then destroy what is beautiful. show me where it can power what is useful without destroying all that is good.

i'm sorry, but i cannot believe the faith that comes western monotheistic religions is capable of being the work or will, of any god that can be called good.
i cannot believe that anything, with the slightest desire to be feared, can ever, even remotely, be trusted.

when you say nothing can exist without being known, that is ego talking, and ego alone. this is not the universe we live in.

 

But to assume evil has no consequences? Certainly it brings your vehemence to fore. I don't see it imparts any understanding as reality by definition would seem to support it's constituents. There are no lies, reality is not mocked, only descriptions are.

 

But how to teach faith? There is no recognized pedagogy.

 

In a way that shows results.

Faith without works is dead.

So your hypothesis or reasonable expectation needs be born out in live demonstration as faith's reward.

The faith needed is no more than a little willingness to consider regardless any previous conclusions.

 

I always like the Nanabozho creation story.. yeah they should teach that..

 

No, I don't think that schools should be mandated to teach Creationism...I do feel that it is OK for school to touch on the subject to make the students aware that it is out there and that it is a popular idea however putting emphasis on it in a public classroom causes too much tension in and out of school...therefore it should come to pass that neither creationism or scientific evolution should be graded on...

My reason for this is because it is a personal choice in believing... As a Christian myself, it is not my duty to "force" the teaching of the things of God onto anyone so therefore not in a public classroom either...I can tell you what I know in my belief in my walk of faith but that does not mean that you will believe it and it is after all a personal choice...
I am only obligated to tell you what Christ has done in my life and try my best to live in the example and show it to others through my everyday actions...It's up to you to choose...You can't do it for someone...
You will not come to the grip of the reality of the things of God by learning from a teacher or a preacher for that matter...The only way is to read and discern and authentically learn from scriptures yourself...

"Well, I don't believe in God, the mythical guy in the sky, or spirits, demons, and angels or any of that junk"...Yes, I know...I've heard it all...So therefore by believing in God is a choice and therefore you cannot possibly grade the life lessons of a walk of faith or teach it appropriately in a classroom by someone who don't know the subject other than what is laid out as material for them....

I also know a great deal about the scientific aspect of life and how things are viewed that way....If you put your faith in only science, how do you know you're not being manipulated or deceived there?...You really don't regardless of how hard they try to pound the evidence in you...So technically you should not be able to grade scientific evolution either because none of us in our short life spans really truly know what is or what really isn't...

It all comes down to what you believe and there is no wrongs or rights here...just personal belief...

 

For the last time, faith has nothing to do with science. "Faith in science" is just a bullshit mantra theists say to poo-poo actual science.

 

Maybe for the first time in your hearing faith plays a role in the formation of perception. We all rely on basic assumptions to organize our lives. There is a lively assumption, there is good for me and I should have it, so we look for it not initially knowing what it is so we believe first in order to see and see eventually in order to believe. Perception of itself is not knowledge but can lead to it through the biofeedback loop of probing for response or observing the sensation that follows our focus or parameters of conviction.

 

I kind of skimmed this thread but I say no to the original question. I don't dispute that evolution does nothing to disprove creationism but I think the intentions of those who would like to teach creationism are suspect. I think they want to introduce it as a counter-point to evolution and as a valid scientific theory...which it is not. They want it to hold equal weight with evolution and it does not.

 

Actually i have heard such indian speakers in public grade school classrooms appearing as guests relative to some element of their curriculum.

 

considering that all of science relies on probabilities, there is a degree of faith involved when extrapolating or making predictions.
Faith is conviction of belief in action, hence the adage, "faith without works is dead"
In that sense we all practice faith daily in myriad ways, although we wouldn't necessarily call it such.

My tired analogy is that every time you hit your brakes, you are practicing faith that they will work, which faith has been developed based on prior experience.

 

You and Dope want to mix definitions.
There's a big difference between religious faith and normal, everyday faith.
Religious faith is quite different than say, having faith the manufacturer of my brake pads used the proper materials and proper manufacturing techniques. I know every working part of my brakes, I know the science behind them, I can even inspect and rebuild them when necessary. I can test them in the physical world and observe tangible results. The kind of 'faith' I have in my brakes comes from experience, knowledge of a system and testing. If someone without faith drives my car, the brakes will still perform the same.

 

Here is a kind of secular faith that strains credulity, faith in the american justice system.

I don't want to mix definitions but definitely understand faith in all iterations helpful and not.