re-visiting 2c-b

I only had the one dose at 30mg. I would like to bump up to 40 next time. The headache could have been from any number of things... sometimes I can take similar doses of 2c-i for instance, and feel totally fine one time and be achy and hungover the next, it depends on how much sleep I got, how long since I last ate, my activity level, the weather, my menstrual cycle, etc... I still suspect minor dehydration though. As soon as you feel thirsty, you're already dehydrated.

 

I think you should increase dose :sunny::devil::2thumbsup:

50mg is serious business



that headache could have come from anything at all that day, wasn't necessarily the bee, though the bee may have caused it to worsen. take more, dive in more. i find it's wasted at night, in the dark. it has poor cev for me, they don't compare to its oev, which is weird. those are just phenomenal and beautiful in a very delicate artistic sort of way, it's not a raging torrent like lsd, it's a mist

 

Dosing high never gave me a headache but it did make produce more mucous fucking with my asthma. I think imma dose 40mg this next time comin up.

 

surprise, surprise (on the first part)

i very rarely get headaches in everyday life, so i'm 95% sure it was 2cb related.
damn, i was trying to recall if you said it was good in the dark or daylight. but i remembered the candle light. next time, maybe more of a daytrip, but it'll suck that i'll kinda crash from it and it won't be time to go to bed yet.
i agree that the OEVs were more prominent than CEVs. a "delicate mist" is a GREAT way to put it. very subtle, but definitely there. while tripping, the visuals were pretty obvious, but now they're hard to recall.

 

Great report. Glad you enjoyed yourself. 2cb and 2ce does sound very interesting.

That's 2cb for me. My first time at 40mg, I know I was looking at one of my MC Escher books and somehow the designs would expand out of the pages and I began seeing a delicate mist or thin veil of tessellations across my entire field of vision, but it was so subtle that it's hard to describe or truly remember how those visuals looked now.

And concerning your headache, I get headaches on the comedown for pretty much all psychedelics I've tried. My brain just gets a little burnt out and tired I think. I always take ibuprofen when initially dosing, and then again about 5-6 hours later. Staying hydrated is important too. As long as I do this, I don't get headaches.

 

I see my thoughts projected in varying shades of frequencies of color with 2cb with eyes closed. the time I mixed it with 4-me0 pcp I got some hallucinations but ive basically only gotten rigid colorful distorted OEV's otherwise, ive seen the colors on a labtop visualized spill over onto the floor which seems similar to your hair incident porkstock and wood grain walls shifting, significant tracers of course but the OEV's are very similar to 2ci to me, perhaps a little more detailed in nature, but a little more restrained in color as well. 2cb is more vertical (I see the visuals more top-down) as where 2ci is more horizontal (I see the visuals more sweeping across)

Although the physical effects are definitely easier, 2cb's cevs is what really separates this psychedelic from 2ci for me, its strange that some of you don't really experience much there.

 

I got amazing CEV's on 45mg of 2cb. Probably the most colorful CEV's I've ever had, especially while listening to Beethoven's Piano Concerto No.5. Very circus-like colors moving in sync with the music.

 

I get too carried away with oev's sometimes to notice cev's. Unless they are the kind that 'stain' when you blink. Then I am like, woah hang on *closes eyes*.

 

when tripping solo I devote a 1/2 hour at least and usually more like an hour to cevs if its as detailed as 2cb's cevs. Cevs seem to have a sort of 'storied' progression to them on 2cb that I don't experience with open eyes. There is a constant building upon the previous scene, breaking it down or transforming it into a new scene. I like TNS circus color description and I feel the images sort of follow the circus analogy as well.

But as has been mentioned 2cb is a very well rounded/complete experience, whatever part of the experience you choose to focus your attention to, will most likely be rewarding.

 

same for me - i spend at least an hour in bed listening to music with eyes closed on most of my trips. i vaguely recall some CEVs on my first try at 20 mg, but that was like 2 years ago now. i definitely had CEVs this time, but they just weren't very dominant.

what you said about a storied progression, i get THAT on 2ce. it incorporates everything though - the song, the CEVs structure, color and movement, my emotions. and it actually feels like i'm being told a story of utmost significance.

but i'm not trying to discount the CEVs on 2cb from this one experience. i'm sure there is much more for me to explore with this one:sunny:

and i don't mean to make so many comparisons to 2ce, but seeing as they are the only 2cxs i've tried, it seems natural to compare them. i'm quite excited to re-visit 2ce, as i haven't had any for about 8 months. after a year or so, trying 2ce again will be like a new experience, since i used to do it once or twice a month for quite awhile. i plan to take 24.5 mg next time (my highest dose)

 

I always find myself comparing psychedelics as well, especially if I have relatively limited experience with the psychedelic it helps me remeber the trip better when you can relate it to a psychedelic you are experienced with and are able to note the similarities and contrast the differences.

I think my next journey is going to be 2ce as well at 50 mgs.

 

I'm that way with B right now because it has been 2 or 3 years ago, I can't remember. But's it's been a long long time. Also, it was the first 2C i ever did... the first RC period I think. I didn't think I would ever run into B again and now that I have this break can't end soon enough.

 

Yes!

HELL YES!!!

 

do you not have any desire to take 2cb at 50 mg? seems like you try most of them at that level in order to compare them (t2, t7, e...)

yeah, i hadn't had 2cb for about 2 years, but only twice.. but i never thought i would run into it again either. 2ce was my first RC (only other 2cx, and only RC i've done more than 3 times)

 

I don't have a strong desire to take 2cb at 50 mgs, its more difficult to come by for me for one. I don't object to it but I think the nexus flips gave me a pretty good idea what the ~50 mgs dose range is like. Im not particularly into the higher doses of 2cb (~35) thus far, I think it shines as a candy psychedelic and everytime I've taken it higher outside the 'foundation' MDMA supplies, I have found it less enjoyable.

The 2ctx chemicals need higher dosages to shine imo and 2ce's stongest feature is the sensorial so I'm interested in pushing that. 2cb empathogenic qualities are best in that 20-30 mgs range for me, they start to decrease after that. I think I'd be more interested in pursuing high dose 2ci before b to be honest.

 

I'm excited to see how you feel about 50mg of 2ce, GB

 

I'm sick right now and got rent to pay soon, so I'm not there mentally for it but Im pretty excited as well, do you think I could maintain like out in a public spot, that's not too crowded? Like a park or something...

I have a specific place in mind but Ill also only be able to lay down on the perimeters of the area.

 

Personally, I'd recommend a spot where you can lay down in the dark with some music. That's where 2ce really shines.

If you'd really like to go out to a park or something like that, I'd recommend at least waiting until it kicks in really good before making the final decision to go out, because it can get pretty fuckin raw. lol Not gonna lie.

 

This place is pretty far away, I have to basically take it there, so once I'm there, I'm there. On 50 mgs 2ct7 I tried to head out and got confused after like 5 minutes, kinda wish I got out on that trip though, so it definitely has to be a premeditated decision I think.

I've done the rectal dose and a trip with a ladyfriend in the dark and I've done the forest, I think this place would be a nice medium and an amazing setting. It would be during the day but the main part I'm looking at, dips Down into this path where basically large trees and plants block out the sun except for maybe some slight slits of light that come through, But I also have to walk a decent amount, which I'm kinda sketched about.

 

Nature is where it's at with 2c-e, but I suppose that's the case with all psychs imo. At 50-60mg I do have a body load that makes walking for long distances kind of tiring honestly, but it wasn't ever too unpleasant. I just remember lsd in the Smoky Mountains, we walked for miles and I didn't think about it once, I felt amazing. So for me 2c-e is best when you have a place to lounge around outdoors and play some music. I love short walks with my dog but long distance gets tough.