In a metaphorical sense, I can see a connection... However, thinking about it in a more literal sense, the universe is really beyond fathomable for me. Our planet is the only one to contain life in our solar system, of the millions upon milions of species that have existed we are most likely the sole species who has been able to reflect on the vastness of the universe and actually leave the planet. Doing a quick search, it would take our fastest spacecraft ever devised 80,000 years just to travel to the nearest star! (Besides the Sun) Then to think how many stars there are in the visible sky... The notion of planets in other solar systems being bathed in radiation from pulsars, Stars expanding to supernovas torching everything in their wake, black holes consuming the center of galaxies, so on and so forth. The evolutionary adaptations and advantages the brain suggests make some sense to me. The universe hardly seems as cohesive and connected as the brain to me but perhaps that's a lot to do with scale. Maybe when/if there is more knowledge about dark matter and dark energy, the 'elegant' universe might make more sense.
unless and until we develop a reliable technological means to look beyond time and space, looking for things like souls and gods and the rest of it, in physical time and space, is just logically looking in the wrong place. and i don't mean having to look instead only in the mind. beyond time and space as we know it, is not limited to the space in the mind. we don't have a name for what is neither mind nor physical, because we don't look at such a concept, many people don't, as a thing that can actually exist, but really, there is nothing observable nor derived from measurements and trying to make sense of them, that in any way excludes its existence. but looking for souls and gods in physical space-time, i'm sorry, but this simply makes no sense.
According to physicists, our known universe only compromises ~5% of the universe. I could very well see more knowledge about dark matter and dark energy leading to more insight into concepts such as the soul or mind reading and still be well within the scope of physical time and space, which is why I mentioned it in the previous post.
Could be that life is just a force by itself that finds it way into many forms, shapes, sizes, shapes and beings.....
I can picture even grass with a color of life force haze surrounding it...... maybe on LSD, you see these things for real....lol
i love plants, and trust me, the grass looks very green on LSD and the beauty of nature is wonderful, so green, so alive! i've always been amazed to stand next to an enormous tree, and look up at it. such a strong and old plant, which came from a tiny seed, which grew into a tiny seedling which was able to find fertile soil in which to spread it's roots, and send its stem upward to absorb the suns rays and grow into the strong plant it is, which nothing in nature can touch. except men with chainsaws, who should be shot! the little young trees beneath the big tree will one day be as big themselves, in perhaps a century. if only trees could talk im sure they would have some stories to tell, as they live for a very long time.
There seems to be a great deal of connectivity among life on Earth, even acknowledged by the likes of Richard Dawkins who doesn't tend towards 'magical' thinking. In The Blind Watchmaker, Dawkins posits an interesting thought experiment, which has stuck with me and has to do with the ethical implications of killing animals in experiments. He talks about monkeys being used in experiments and since we see our life as humans as inheritently more valuable than that of monkeys, we find it unethical to perform such experiments on humans. However Dawkins then asks the reader to view the scenario from the evolutionary timescale, in which we are likely to find that at some point in evolutionary history, humans and monkeys shared a common ancestor. He then asks 'from what evolutionary timescale does it become unethical to kill a monkey?' Basically if we remove ourselves from the immeadiate conceptions of us being inherently different than monkeys by the divergence we see in the species today, there would be a point along the evolutionary timescale where we would not see this divergence. (This can extend to mice and other animals that are experimented on) I think this thought experiment doesn't need only to apply to our view on experimental practices but can extend to our connection with life in general.
Can't say I am looking for Godot....How can I look for something that I do not believe exists? I am looking for evidence of the continuance of our energy or "soul"....the core that makes each an individual..........and I do beleve energy never dies.....but we may just not be ourselves any more after this life.....
I can say I do believe in energy......and some of it affects me positively and other negatively......"good" vs"bad" energy which also could be different to the human experience.....and perspective....What affects me negatively may be the opposite for you and vice versa. Some energy is blatantly "bad" in most people's eyes....torturting animals and other humans clearly, etc......some is not so clear to everyone.
It's inhumane and some of the studies, which are performed on animals to gather information about the human condition, may be loosely applicable at best. Perhaps in the future, computer simulations could be useful for some studies but I don't see a better way to gather information, particularly in a lot of in vivo studies for diseases, drugs, etc. than on animal studies.
Man, please accept my apologies....stupid me for putting that link on my own thread in the science section. I should have known better and talked about all of this on the God Time thread in the religious section......there anything goes...here, it is not even pseudo science...please forgive me. I won't do it again...I will go punish myself now.
I am not over reacting.....I call it as I see it...I am very level headed today....thank you for your concern. As to your question.......I felt it related.....I should have titled this thread quantum energy, as that is what i wanted to talk about...not just people's soul's or energy.....and did not want to make another thread just to put the link. I felt it tied in with things here.
I think I saw a similar article on the topic, which is pointing to this stuff the scientists have called "Dark Flow" to describe the apparently non-uniform movement they are seeing with stars in a certain region of what was the early universe, which leads them to believe it's from another universe. The way they described this "Dark Flow" in the article made it sound more like an interstellar jet stream but I'm sure they probably have mathematical formulas which makes them suspect it's another universe.
I cannot remember which program I was watching where there is a theory of infinite universes......ours is just one tiny bubble in an infinite sea of them, and sometimes the universes bump into each and create a bang or other universe......I wonder what would happen if two universes collided.......in this theory......as the bump to create this universe was described as gentle......The theory made as much sense to me as any, anyway.... Infinity in all things......maybe.....which is never a destination or final number....... and our atoms never die as the energy they are....Hey, I wonder if Adam was derived from the word Atom....or did we invent that word after the Adam and Eve story....?