On reaching a consensus re mass shootings in the U.S.

You are entitled to your name calling if you feel your self worth is raised. Seems very anti left to name call, but hey you are what you are.

Don't bitch and yell if someone does the same to you.

 

But but but but only 3% of the gun owners own 80% of the guns......I heard that in...well some fantasy land somewhere on the board here.

 

I will say that. I came across this board for a completely different reason. Was told I need to post more. I will agree with you, it is pretty entertaining. I learn more about Donald Trump and which direction his nostrils flare in and what that means for the doom of the world here, than in 5,000 hours of trying to find that info anywhere else in the world. They are a hoot. You couldn't write this stuff if you were paid to. You have to witness it.

 

3% sounds a little low but many who do own guns own many. So they are all concentrated among a small portion of Americans. Most of are not interested in militia meetings and planning for war. Even many who do hunt. It's just a hobby to them not the revolution.

 

I was being facetious . It was stated something similar to that here. It isn't my data.

 

About 30 % of Americans own guns

But I've came across the statistic that 3% of Americans own 50% of guns before. I'm not sure how that was figured but it doesnt sound that far fetched. We already know people stockpile guns, if that figure is accurate it explains the extent of it

 

I just searched for it and found this.

https://www.usnews.com/news/article...ercent-of-americans-own-half-the-nations-guns

If we're to believe US News, about 3% of Americans own the majority of guns nationwide.

 

Could be. I seriously doubt the NRA is lobbying on behalf of 3% of the population.

But I don't really follow all of this that closely so *shoulder shrug*

 

I often wonder what the ratio actually is in this. I realize there are some folks who need to have a dozen or more guns to feel safe (or whatever the motivation). As a minimalist, unfettered by greed or criminal desire, I keep a limited number of guns in the house. I do know people I would characterize as "Gun Nuts" who would laugh at our meager collection. They own well over a dozen guns.

What is the mean in terms of gun ownership? And what about ammunition?

 

I have come across 3 people in my life with lots of guns. All legal. One I'd consider a collector. He didn't have a lot of ammo. But he did somehow acquire an actual rocket launcher.

The other 2 while legal gave me the creeps.

More than 5000 rounds of ammo. One proudly had 10K rounds. All legal. But you never know who you don't know that has stuff like this.

I have one gun and 50 rounds. All RIP rounds. It's gonna be a shitty world if I can't get out of problem with that.

 

Not

LOL - No I think it a lot smaller number than that - but not sure how many gun manufacturing executives there are?

But seriously the problem with the gun lobbyists (like yourself) which is glaringly obvious after debating with them for any length of time, is that they have no rational or reasonable arguments against prudent gun control it is as pure and simple as that (and i know you like things simple), it virtually all comes down to ‘I don’t want because I don’t want’

They have two core arguments against prudent gun control (personal defence and defence against bad government) neither of which is that strong.

Basically the gun lobby arguments against rational and reasonable gun control seems to be over bar the shouting, the increasingly panicked and shill shouting coming mainly from the gun owning right.

As I say they remind me of some type of comic zombies, their stance is dead but they still shuffle on, grunting and groaning ‘guns…guns…I want guns’

 

That's a really shitty thing to say.

 

I sincerely believe it

 

#5 and #6

I dont like the wording "limited in their value" because it makes me think you are leading us along until we reach a point where because of that, you introduce gun control measures in to the conversation.

 

Just to repeat... back on topic.

I feel like this thread is made with the intention to string us along and then spring gun control on us after we've followed along and to make those who dont seem unreasonable.

 

AR15s fed by 30 round magazines kill a miniscule amount of people compared to handguns and other rifles according to the FBI

So we dont need more gun control.