Lady Gaga Silences Her Critics

I only decide for myself what is right. But we all have to be entitled to our opinions. All I've ever seen is one awful music video and an early video of her singing and playing piano. People kept acting like she was so weird, and I was like, "What is weird about this girl?" She doesn't come off as anything outside the status quo to me. She's so safe and packaged and yet people act like something surprising is going on. It's asinine. None of you are surprised. You're just taking what you're being offered and forming your opinions around what you're being told.

Yes I am. The only way I can picture an intelligent person enjoying Lady Gaga would be if this person studies music. Children listen to music without the ability to really grasp the value of what's being offered them. I don't see why it's so improbable that Lady Gaga stunts your intellectual development.

She's made awful career choices by playing awful music and making a fool of herself. I don't care how much money a baboon makes.

I haven't heard a new album in years.

 

She's a hero to her fans because she has fun and doesn't care if people don't like her. She enjoys herself for who she is and what she wants to do. That's entertainment with a message and people are identifying with that. It's about individuality, diversity, and having pride. It's about enjoying seeing your fellow human enjoy their life in their own way.

It's a movement and she's smart to be a part of it.

I just wondered who you might like in popular music. It's okay.

 

So it's basically the greatest thing that ever happened to humanity. How convenient for her. Not buying it.

Like I said I haven't listened to a new album in years, so I couldn't really say who is making good music. All I hear is the crap they/you try to shove in my face.

 

If people are looking for good music, they're not going to find much in the realm of popular music, but it's rather annoying when people judge all new music based on what gets media attention. There is lots of excellent independent label music being made these days. Lady Gaga is irrelevant to me because her music is garbage compared to a lot of the stuff that doesn't receive attention because it's not put out there for people to gobble right up.

 

I'm not a fan of pop music. I know there's a huge market of people who are fans, though. I don't begrudge what they do; just like I don't begrudge fans and players of pro sports, for example.

What makes other people happy doesn't bother me as long as it's harmless.

 

There's no denying she is talented. I don't care for her pop music and outlandish costumes and themes, and I actually like theatrics and showmanship on stage! But I find she pushes it too far. Although I haven't followed her all that closely. I'm curious to see her jazz stint, I'll have to look up that material.

As for her Sound of Music performance, I had heard about it so looked it up. I knew she can sing. But I was disappointed. She certainly has chops, and she did show it to those who had no idea she can sing, good move. But I find it didn't have the finesse and soul of well, Julie Andrews for one, and singers like Ann Wilson who has excellent phrasing. Or Pat Benatar, you can feel the songs when she sings them. Gaga didn't do that for me. I'd love to see an operatic performance from Pat Benatar too, Karen. If you ever find one, please post it.

 

It's true dude, what Aeri said. And thanks for that Aeri, I kinda forgot about that. Calculated or not, it's still a good thing.
Now just for your own knowledge of pop culture, you should actually look up some of her other videos if you don't think she's been very outrageous. She had to out do Madonna, right? Now I'm not saying you're going to find her music appealing, or the videos appealing, because believe it or not I don't like that kind of pop music or the videos the least little bit, (Well, unlike Madonna, Gaga's not bad to look at sometimes, lol) in fact the only thing that will drive me out of a room faster is gangsta rap, lol {edit} Techno, House, all that shit too)
Thats the side of Gaga thats made her rich. Good or Bad, thats the reality of it. Now she's doing something different that she doesn't need to sell a ton of records, just do music she wants to do, the way she wants to do it. Can't knock her for that.

Hate the game don't hate the play'a, as they say.

 

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The fact she sells records is such a weak argument to suggest Gaga has talent. I'm not saying she's talentless but if record sales equates to talent Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus and Taylor Swift are also all really talented. LOL!

I'm not even anti-pop, I don't think Gaga makes good music, or good pop music at least. I do think alot of her "Fame" is due to the spectacle she makes of herself. Same could be said about Cyrus and the others to varying extents really.

 

Show me where anyone is arguing that that. She sells records because she's popular, for what ever reason, a part of which is that people like her music. As far as talent, I'll bet she plays piano better than you ♪ :-D

 

I've always been a big Ann Wilson fan, and I think she's terribly under-rated.

 

Right on. Her persona is a total turn off (IMO). So now suddenly I'm supposed to fess up that she has a great voice? If that's the case, why the need for her totally surreal persona? Janis never resorted to that. Nor did Grace Slick (their talent was enough). That alone speaks volumes. Lady Gaga is an entertainer. Period

 

That's what I was saying. There is a large appeal for people who do what they want to without regard to criticism.

Every generation has their beloved rebels.

 

one read of her wiki page shows that no one handed fame to this girl....she earned it

 

I thought he's just expressing his opinion (he already clarified that anyway ). I find it curious how you react to this when you also convict entire subgenres of music based on your subjective opinion on them (without even listening or looking for the good stuff in it!). So to me it seems you should fully understand where he's coming from. It is just an entirely different kind of music and artist that is being criticised here, you're both doing the same when pissing on a kind of music you dislike or maybe better said don't recognize the artistic/musical value of.

I agree, that the criticism of a person (no matter how much they know about music they like, and how many valid thoughts they express about that stuff) on a genre or artist in music they dislike so much they rather not get familair with it is not worth as much as the criticism and opinions of people who are actually into the music they're giving an opinion about. We can see this all the time when people express their thoughts on things they are not into at all.

Because he has a negative opinion on a typical pop artist? Nonsense. He's just expressing his perhaps extreme but seemingly sincere dislike for such artists (or rather this one in specific). We don't have to agree with him but calling him such a thing because he sees a pop artist for what she is, a commercial succes who knows how the music industry works, seems lame and just an easy way to reject his criticism as something coming from a cultural barbarian Do I really have to break it to you that lots of people with developed music taste shit on Gaga's pop music. They're not nearly all cultural dinosaurs.

Making money may be a sign of a good musical career from a business perspective (which seems to cause her to get at least as much love and appreciation than 'merely' her pop music on itself), but to music lovers this should not really be important (imho) or by definition says a lot about the quality of her music. I mean we could have this same thread and discussion talking about Kayne West for example. He's also talented to generate money and succes in the music industry. Does that make him an impressive musical artist to most people who are interested in quality music?
Any turd who knows what make a hit song and has a good manager and video clip can be succesful in pop music.

 

Ok critics, how about some good 'ol rocking gospel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkXfGpMnNNU

The mix is a little piano heavy, but this one clinches it for me. Outstanding vocal performance of some very difficult material.

Timing, phrasing, intonation, tone, dynamics...Gaga's got it all.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3h9sQS7azmQ

 

You have to keep in mind that pretty much no one said (if I've read right) that she has no talent or can't time or phrase etc. etc. It is mostly her own pop music that is getting negative opinions. Which is primarily a subjective dislike. I happen to agree with that subjetive dislike, I think her own pop music seriously has not much musical value. It appeals to a lot of people (youngsters it seems) because they like to be part of her 'monsters' and because the combi of her hit songs with her fancy video clips appeals to them.
It is arguable if there would be no show element, no visual display what so ever (including clips) how much people would have grown to like her performances to the same extent.

 

Great comparison (but Madonna could dance)

 

I wouldn't go listening to turds if I were you. d-:

 

It seems in todays pop music industry being an allround performer is at least as important/valued then just making good music. If you have talent and can impress the audience with your body and moves you just need the song to be catchy enough (like repeat one line a time or ten on a riff or melody anybody will be unable to get out of their heads). It is not about how fun or pleasing this melody is, it is about how much it can get stuck in people's head

Guess what, I'm not

 

That would be like saying black metal wouldn't be popular if it didn't focus on morbid imagery and violence...hey maybe you're right! LOL

What is this , a cartoon show?


Oooo scary, kids!