Is There Any Room For God In Modern Science?

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  1. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    THIS is Magick in a nutshell. The focusing of one's Will. Imagination plus Will (both mental and physical) = Magick

    "Man is God, God is internal Man" ...this is what I mean by humans changing their relationship to God as God's Brother.
     
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    Ancient Astronaut Theory is also a Theory, but because Science doesn't recognize it, and only considers its theories to be facts (that's not arrogant ;)), therefore it's not as important or factual as the Theory of Gravity. This is a joke and is Dogmatic whether you like it or not.
     
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    Is that the fact of your theory?
     
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  5. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    All it takes is for one to pause and see how stupid it is to call something a fact and a theory at the same time, scientific or otherwise.
     
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    This is coloring in a coloring book, the focusing of ones imagination and will both mental and physical...magick, or at least lending tint to pictures. And color tv, well there is magick that verges on the miraculous.
    May I ask when is it that you ever don't do your will?
     
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    So should I take your theory as fact?
     
  8. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Magick is about being aware of your Will and energy at all times, focusing that energy via various means, and creating your existence exactly as you choose to design it. Finding your True Will is a key to this.
     
  9. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    You don't have to. But if you don't take it as fact, then why would you take a Scientific Theory as fact?
     
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    So it morphs into being aware all the time. Somewhat different from focusing intent in a particular direction. Creating your existence as you design it? That is not possible, it would be like creating your own parents. Wouldn't finding your true will be learning about your will as opposed to practicing magick and why is doing my job at work not magick? You say magick is about. It is obvious that means you can't articulate exactly what it is, as in magick has a value of about seven.
     
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    So I can call theory fact after all? I have your permission now?
     
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    What I would say is scientists prefer science to baby sitting other peoples kids
     
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    Scientific theories require a testable hypothesis... and by testable, this means it should be objectively testable to where, in theory anyone could replicate said test/experiment .

    Good Science attempts to eliminate bias, provide methods, controls variables, sets parameters, recognizing potential limitations.

    It should go without saying how a religious 'theory' of say "God being everywhere" or some sort of prophecy of a person from an ancient religious text predicts in a psychic manner (if that's the type of stuff you are referring to as theory for religion) does not qualify for the same definition of theory as a scientific theory.

    Philosophical theories are often more nuanced in this respect, some of them approach foundations that slightly resemble proper science, such as setting parameters, however most Philosophers generally don't produce observeable testable results.



    If we use music theory to find the notes of a C Major Scale, it is a fact that our notes will be C,d,e,F,G,a,b.
     
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    From the examples given magick is all about being a wanna be
     
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  15. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Learning about your will and practicing Magick go hand in hand. If you feel that you can't create your existence then you are still creating your existence via that belief.
     
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    Is there any room for God in modern science?

    Before any conversation can begin regarding 'God', one first has to define the term - then we can have a discussion (otherwise we're talking about different things).

    It seems to me that if you ask 10 people on how they define God, you get 10 different answers - here lies the problem.
     
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  17. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    If you use Magickal Theory to conduct certain rituals, it is a fact that certain correspondences will appear. This is exactly my point. No matter what language you are using, it's still its own language and form of looking at the universe. If you use Astrology's language, then it is a fact that a Mars in Scorpio has very specific characteristics.
     
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    How do you come to exist?
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    You have no point, 'correspondence' is nothing objectively observable.
     
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    The term has been defined. Being an english word it's definition appears in the english dictionary. Just simply account for all of the entries simultaneously when making the comparison.
    If god is that which we invoke, then answering the question is there any room for god in modern science, is gods voice on the issue. Seems the answer is not available unless we inquire of god.
     

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