Is There Any Room For God In Modern Science?

I don't know what post you read or how you got out of it that I was insinuating it was beyond the capacities of man. All I said was higher power, meaning just that...a higher power. Because a lot of people who call themselves theists only do so very lightly. They just think of God as a higher power. Some would even go so far as to call God simply an alien. And that question, is there an intellect out there more powerful than man's, is one, obviously, within the reach of science.

So the question remains, as always, what are we fucking talking about here? It seems to me that you people just like to talk out your buttholes about God. But let's not dwell on that, let's dwell on WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT.

 

It appears as creative process concerned with the extension of self and you have a conscious link to it. That is you always choose with a guide compared to self interest.

In metaphorical terms god says let there be such and such and so there was such and such and then weighs the results, sees that it is good, or bad in an individuals case and this is really up to your own reflection, but the allegory as a teaching device suggests that god sees his own creations as uniformly good. Everyone then is motivated by personally perceived added value. There is good for me in the world and I must have it. On this fundamental creature basis the idea that anyone means harm is an abstraction.

You can speculate as to what might be and perhaps take chances according to your hunch, but no, you are the inherited creative power, god in your own right, and god being the authority you fundamentally side with is something you embrace. To create your own god would be like creating your own parents. There is a definite process that gets you here. You can only create like yourself. On a surface level you can invent idols or icons and these qualify as gods for some perspectives. To embrace a broader perspective, to become aware of an inner teacher is close to discovering what makes you tick. There is an authority that we must learn and that is evident in the way things seem out of control.

Primarily it is to learn the authority you actually posses as opposed to the one you were taught to believe in. We are taught culturally to measure the world according to arbitrary abstract moral standards called rule of law and in this we develop "good judgement". Bull shit, we practice continual and unrelenting arbitration using a sliding scale that is mood influenced and consumes an enormous amount of our day to day attention.

Our real powers of discernment of what is so lie in distinct edge detection. We most definitely discern what is the same and what is different and figure out how a things works but you cannot decipher the heart or potentials in another man and you can be damned confused about your own. We don't need that type of judgement to organize our lives and the idea that any energetic expression is nefarious in nature obliterates clear perception of what the correct energetic measurement is or should be.

If I didn't address any question to your satisfaction don't feel shy in positing it again.

 

This is a contradiction. Science Dogma. It can't be a proven fact and a theory at the same time.

 

Does a neutron star satisfy 'higher power'? Or is it the spiritual higher power they mention in AA? Or is it something specific you had in mind? Got to be one of these otherwise it is you who is speaking out the ass.

 

THIS is a fallacy. what you just said.

a scientific theory is NOT THE SAME THING as the word "theory" when used casually. they do not mean the same thing.

a scientific theory is a sound explanation of what we can observe around us. it is based upon facts (at least as far as we human are able to perceive them)

science has also produced the theory of gravity. just like natural selection, it doesn't care whether or not you "believe" in it. it is true regardless of what anyone thinks.

Germ theory is another sound scientific theory. it doesn't matter if you believe in micro-organisms...they can still make you sick.

 

Really, it can't? Why is this so? Do you know what a scientific theory is?

 

It shouldn't be something I have in mind is the point. It should be something the OP has in mind and they should be specific or we just go around in circles endlessly.

 

She is a theist who relies upon fancy rather than reality. Of course she has no true understanding of science or the meaning of a scientific theory.

 

Actually there are chemosynthetic life forms on this planet. Some bacteria get energy from the sun, some by dredging organic compounds. What I mean by closed system includes the temporary nature of life. Every form so far has a time limit except for potentially a type of jelly fish and even that relies on an intact environment.

On the subject of sourcing available energy for life check this, it's independent of the sun cycle,
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/05/12/the-end-of-food

 

The magnetic sphere is vital in keeping the atmosphere in place.

 

You think of higher power in terms of higher number or greater kinetic force among other things...like your bill.

 

Which is the higher power the megawatt or the efficient use of it?

 

Kundalini is energy and it is all around us, you just need to tune into it. When you do experience Kundalini, you will know. You will feel it racing up your spine. You will feel the total energy of life + the clarity of mind to all around you. Kundalini, you must experience, to understand the power within. You cannot "study" it.

 

I have felt that when I tune into it.....it is a warm vibration.....ever just run your hands over another person without touching them....you can feel the energy and heat with your hands........pretty amazing......all energy is........

 

Don't tell me, tell Chinacat. He wants desperately for science to study Kundalini and insists that there is even a conspiracy to not study it because it will disturb the theory of evolution.

 

I always just thought that was just regular thermal energy, not unlike the thermal energy emitted by any other warm object. No need for any superfluocities here Some of the experience you feel from touching another person is psychological as well.

 

Smart ace.

 

My apologies, you kinda get lost in reading the re-quotes and sometimes cannot tell who is quoting who.

 

I am sorry ...but your big word superfluocities is not in any dictionary....so i have no idea what you mean.
You must speak for us little people too, so that we too can understand.

I was not being funny. I have experienced what i was talking about....without touching someone....but running the open of your palm over their body....you feel the energy....not just heat.

 

The mind is great at tricking us into thinking of what we want to imagine as real as opposed to what actually is real.

I can raise my hands into the air and imagine energies flowing around my fingertips. My mind can actually create the sensations necessary to support the delusion.

In the end, however, it is just mere fantasy struggling with logic.