Is The Uncertainty Principle Incompatible With Determinism?

there is no limit in the province of mind. It is naturally abstract.The limits we deal with are limits of physical spectrum. I, the breath that goes in an out, cannot communicate with you without the body in this frame of reference. The body is a limit we take on ourselves in order to express intensity in terms of dimension.

 

Really the people having a hard time are the ones who don';t know how to respond.

 

I know what forms you're talking about, the dope. I'm asking what substance it is, precisely, that miraculously imbibes matter with the quality of being "determined" or "determinable" as opposed to just completely weird and abstract. The material world itself may essentially be random, and even though it goes in predictable patterns, that can't make the essence of the thing itself any less non-determinable. If it's reality we're talking about, it simply appears on its surface to be unfathomable. I can't determine anything about it that is going to give it to you, or make it real. It is whatever it is, but what it is cannot be determined.

That is not to say we shouldn't continue cataloguing reality to the best of our ability. But let's get our heads on straight while we do it and know our limitations. Let's pay homage to the eternal mystery of the place that hangs over it like a London fog. From time to time let's make a point to remember it, as a simple act of mindfulness, for it is so important to be mindful of your true condition and not the condition your ego desires.

 

Are you channeling noxious or just depersonalizing to disarm? I'm referring to the specific choice of words. The meter has the feel of jane robert's seth material. Me, i use everything and go up and down the ladder. Not only is it as above so below it is also as to the left also to the right. There is redundancy in diverse expression. In this instance I use one level consistently so we can recognize the common.

Our words speak plainly on this subject if you but know what you say. What presents your determinations? Your language. What turns them from abstract to observable is that you name it. we speak a language you can see, In simplest forms the language is in the arrangement of material. In forms a little more complex the language is the arrangement of genetic material. At the level of our complexity the conception is transcendent.

 

As far as paying honor to mystery you don't know the quantity you are honoring. To pay honor to mystery ask a question.

 

the Logos is the creative principle, the impetus for manifestation of the one into the infinite.

in the beginning God said........and got the ball rolling.

 

The problem we have with this on the surface is that we are not sure if we a real. Fact is underneath we find that we can't ignore our own presence but we are afraid to let it out because then we have no cop out for the state of our affairs. We are afraid because it is true. It's easy to be at the mercy of other things. no so easy to find mercy in our own accounting.

 

god said and we pick up and extend the narrative

 

we are the word become flesh

 

Our lives of the moment are an out of time interval which is why we run out. No discrete events in a space time continuum. The purpose of the timed then to use it wisely. The timely exists to allow time to bring the temporariness and the miscreant use of mind called accident, to and end. To develop an incorruptible eye/ I. the beauty of the arrangement is that our mistakes are temporary, not permanent. Our mind is so powerful that a mistake or an undeveloped idea could alter the whole sequence. We could obliterate ourselves. Here we learn to create with our substance in a consistent intentional manner so that new worlds may be created.

 

In earlier times our lesson was taught in work. we worked toward a desired aim, nose to the plow. Redundantly we could count on the weather. The spirit is eager but the flesh has limits. The world is at a crossroad and it is splashed across our media, Our world will soon be unrecognizable in terms of being able to forecast. Prevailing circulations will change And we must be able to think on our feet.

 

To be consistent from beginning to end. What is real cannot be caused to be unreal. Our errors are the illusion of substance. What does not function does not function against. You can't loose at the game, you can only delay playing at full throttle

 

In the conviction of time however the suffering is tragic.

Hope you get well soon.

 

hmmm, odd,
sharper than a two edged sword.

thank you

 

We are the transcendental object at the end of time for those who get the reference.

The technology given is from behind the eye of the chrysanthemum.

The one who accepted the invitation to love in time is the chrysanth

the christ sayer

The voice of authority

the one who chooses his debt to time is the real sooth sayer or spook.

 

The words certainty and determinacy are basically the same in this context, and their negations are too. So obviously uncertainty is incompatible with determinacy and any principal of uncertainty is a negating factor.

But, to go with the exact wording of the thread title, the term determinism is used rather than determinacy. It refers to the theory of determinism, which is either simply that there exists causes and effects that can be observed to certain extents, which is absurdly obvious, or it's that causes when taken to account for all factors involved, no matter how minute, will always produce the same effects taking in account for all factors, no matter how minute. In the later case, the issue, while as far as I know being a legitimate debate, is entirely useless. It's based on the idea that a system of events can happen in an absolute vacuum, which even if true, we'd never know, because simply the fact that the system is being observed shows that the integrity of the vacuum has been corrupted.

 

So you say
You watched porn
called me spoiled goods
What next?

 

The word 'determinism' was the word they chose to use in the book I referred to in the OP. Your post was informative, I see there is a subtle difference between how determinism may be used in a scientific context compared to how it may be used in a philosophical context.

 

I agree the debate is useless but we retain it in our minds. I think the insecurity comes from the confusing lessons in language. We are taught language to communicate and then we are told to shut up or else.

 

It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of Sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.