Is Saudi Arabia The Ultimate Evil Empire?

I know who I am full well.
not my job to help Storch out of his confusion.


don't you ever get tired of playing the sagely teacher?

it does get tedious at times always being treated as the student.

 

I just told you that weapons inspectors reported finding nothing. Politicians sitting behind desks here at home decided that that didn't matter. And then they ordered the extensive bombing of Iraq. You are free to call that the fucked up shit that is war, but it is actually the fucked up shit that was based on lies. And those lies resulted in the murder of hundreds of thousands of innocent human beings.

 

do you actually believe you are presenting me with information I am not already aware of?

 

No, I'm saying that when a war of aggression is based on lies, you don't know enough to call the resulting deaths of innocent civilians murder.

 

No,. I simply do not agree completely with your assessment and conclusions.
Whatsa matter, ego bruised?

 

You believe that the decision to attack a country and kill hundreds of thousands of innocent humans is not murder even though the political leaders who made that decision were told by weapons inspectors that they didn't find anything in said country. And you somehow believe that that bruises my ego?

 

you really are an idiot.
Stop stating what I do or don't think.
No your ego isn't bruised because of your erroneous assumptions about me, but rather simply because I do not agree with you.

deal with it.

 

Do you know who you are. Speak for yourself

Know thyself and you can help him with his confusion.

 

I stated that your definition of what constitutes murder is wrong, and then I explained why. So, the point is that you have no counter argument. That doesn't bruise my ego. If my ego was bruised, I would be calling you an idiot.

 

post 176 first word.

 

I just took a look at that post, and it doesn't start with the word "no."

 

Let's see how can I repay the favor

You are my friend. I love you.

 

Where did I define what constitutes murder?
I am going by the LEGAL DEFINITIONS OF THE DIFFERING DEGREES OF MURDER.
not personal emotional definitions;


first degree murder
n. although it varies from state to state, it is generally a killing which is deliberate and premeditated (planned, after lying in wait, by poison or as part of a scheme), in conjunction with felonies such as rape, burglary, arson, involving multiple deaths, the killing of certain types of people (such as a child, a police officer, a prison guard, a fellow prisoner), or with certain weapons, particularly a gun. The specific criteria for first degree murder are established by statute in each state and by the United States Code in federal prosecutions. It is distinguished from second degree murder in which premeditation is usually absent, and from manslaughter which lacks premeditation and suggests that at most there was intent to harm rather than to kill.


second degree murder
n. a non-premeditated killing, resulting from an assault in which death of the victim was a distinct possibility. Second degree murder is different from First Degree Murder which is a premeditated, intentional killing, or results from a vicious crime such as arson, rape, or armed robbery. Exact distinctions on degree vary by state.

• First-degree murder is any intentional murder that is willful and premeditated with malice aforethought. Felony murder is typically first-degree.

• Second-degree murder is an intentional murder with malice aforethought, but is not premeditated or planned in advance.

• Voluntary manslaughter (also referred to as third-degree murder), sometimes called a crime of passion murder, is any intentional killing that involved no prior intent to kill, and which was committed under such circumstances that would "cause a reasonable person to become emotionally or mentally disturbed". Both this and second-degree murder are committed on the spot, but the two differ in the magnitude of the circumstances surrounding the crime. For example, a bar fight that results in death would ordinarily constitute second-degree murder. If that same bar fight stemmed from a discovery of infidelity, however, it may be mitigated to voluntary manslaughter.[8]

• Involuntary manslaughter stems from a lack of intention to cause death but involving an intentional, or negligent, act leading to death. A drunk driving-related death is typically involuntary manslaughter (see also vehicular homicide, causing death by dangerous driving, gross negligence manslaughter and causing death by criminal negligence for international equivalents). Note that the "unintentional" element here refers to the lack of intent to bring about the death. All three crimes above feature an intent to kill, whereas involuntary manslaughter is "unintentional", because the killer did not intend for a death to result from their intentional actions. If there is a presence of intention it relates only to the intent to cause a violent act which brings about the death, but not an intention to bring about the death itself.

At best the killing of civilians in Iraq would be classified as involuntary manslaughter and in some cased voluntary manslaughter if you are wanting to lay the blame at some governing official or office.
if you want to take to the street level of the infantry man, than you need to examine it case by case.

 

Fortunately, we're not in school anymore. We're old enough that we can tell the "teacher" to go fuck himself.

The definition of the word "war" says nothing about justified or unjustified. Hitler started a war, not a murder. Japan's bombing of Pearl Harbor was an act of war.

 

I am confused about what you said. Don't people murder other people in war? Isn't that what war is, people murdering other people over resources or convictions?

 

There is no argument about the past. The past happened.

 

But it wasn't involuntary. The weapons inspectors found nothing. The U.S. officials voluntarily decided to drop bombs on innocent civilians anyway.

 

There is no argument about the past it happened

 

Different word, different definition. If I go to your home and murder you, that isn't an example of a war with only two people in it.

People can debate whatever they want. Past, present, or future.

 

How is it racist when we are talking about a culture and a religion? Nobody said anything about race. But as is the case with mentally ill liberals, they need to inject race into everything to promote their idiotic arguments. Just shows how brainwashed and not very bright you are.