Is "file-sharing" basically a nice way to say "stealing"?

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  1. McLeodGanja

    McLeodGanja Banned

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    Which creates an economic situation that allows the wealthy elite to exploit everyone else by buying up property and using the money they get from the rent to pay off the mortgage.
     
  2. neodude1212

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    On behalf of all young people everywhere, I apologize for our damnable restlessness. Truly, not wanting to settle down when you are 18 has doomed society forever.
     
  3. McLeodGanja

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    What part of the charity scheme I explained whereby the rent you pay, wherever you happen to choose to live, goes towards earning you a share in the ownership of the property don't you get?
     
  4. ChronicTom

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    The wealthy elite?

    ANYONE can buy a home if they choose to... I am not wealthy, and I sure as hell aren't part of any 'elite'...

    I went and did what anyone can do... I did so with no credit rating (actually a bad one), no money, nobody 'giving' me anything.

    Instead of being a whining little bitch who claims the world never gave me anything, I looked around and found a way to use a fucked up system to get me what I wanted.

    But hey, keep telling us how unfairly the world has treated you...
     
  5. neodude1212

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    The part where I'm not really inclined to own 1/70th of an apartment complex after I move out in 6 months.
     
  6. McLeodGanja

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    Was I referring specifically to you?

    I'm done debating this with you.
     
  7. McLeodGanja

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    What if every place you rented earned you a share, so that when you reached a certain age and decided to settle down you had some form of collateral that you could use to get on the property ladder. Does that not interest you?

    Fine. Your loss.
     
  8. ChronicTom

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    More important then that, is go find 69 other people that you want to share the building and risk with.

    If you are buying it as a co-operative, and someone doesn't pay their share, the others will have to come up with it or EVERYONE looses their home, even those who were paying their share.

    The landlord is the one who takes those risks in rental apartments, it is the landlord who has to cover those who don't pay.

    You also have to make sure that all those 69 other people also pitch in on the maintenance, or on paying for the maintenance of the building. If not, everyone else has to make up for it or suffer.

    If one (or more) of those people decide they just arent going to pay, then the rest are going to have to foot the bill for getting them out legally.
     
  9. ChronicTom

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    So, as your landlord in a building when you are 18, you think I should help you buy a house 20 years later?

    That sure is going to cut into the number of rental units available... lol

    Better invest in canvas and carboard, because tent cities are going to spring up everywhere as landlord decide to bulldoze buildings rather then rent to people under those conditions.
     
  10. McLeodGanja

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    This is not how it works Tom. If you don't pay the rent you have to leave, and then they find someone else to move in. You still then own a commensurate share, nobody loses out. You don't have to find 69 people to share with, don't be an idiot.
     
  11. McLeodGanja

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    Why the fuck should I pay to buy buy your second home?
     
  12. ChronicTom

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    So, in 30 years, all the people who ever lived in that building own a share?

    LOL this just gets better and better...
     
  13. McLeodGanja

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    There are schemes just like this in operation. I know of a few in Holland and I heard of one recently in this country.

    Just because you can't profit out of it doesn't mean it's a bad idea.
     
  14. neodude1212

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    What is this magical "commensurate share" that you are rewarded with for failing to pay your rent?
    And it stands to follow that if the amount of property remains the same, but the amount of shares continue to increase, the value of the shares continually decline. Not a sound investment.
     
  15. ChronicTom

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    If you don't want to, don't rent... how simple is that you fucking moronic putz.

    I agree with the sentiment that renting isn't an intelligent way to go through life...

    That was why instead of whining like a little bitch about how unfair it was, I went out and bought property. I then spent all my money and time fixing that property up and sold it for a small profit (which didn't cover my labor) and then turned around and did that again, until I had the equity to buy income properties that had apartments that I could rent in order to pay for it, in other words, to cover the costs.

    Not one of the tenants ever volunteered to help with the work (unless they were offered cash for labor, which I wasn't getting from anyone)...

    Whine all you fucking want... In 20 years, you will still be sitting there whining like a little bitch about how unfair life is.
     
  16. McLeodGanja

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    The share that you have already paid for before you move out, obviously.
     
  17. ChronicTom

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    Show me these places...

    Pop a link.... shouldn't be too hard... a place like that would be proud of what they are doing...
     
  18. neodude1212

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    See my edit
     
  19. McLeodGanja

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    Change the fucking record.
     
  20. McLeodGanja

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    Look it up yourself, They call them stichtings in Holland, that's dutch for charity. I couldn't care less if your small mind can't grasp such a basic charitable concept.
     

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