Is "file-sharing" basically a nice way to say "stealing"?

Overall, I guess we both just have two different interpretations of the word 'theft'!

 

As long as the player, is choosing to play the game you hate, then there is reason.

BTW, any situation where people say that, the same answer applies...

 

Agreed

 

I just wonder if you only download grass-roots material and don't share the latest blockbuster and/or Lady Gaga ep (e.gs before you moan).

 

producers make all the money anyways.

 

Actually, I download almost no music, either grass roots or labelled... As to the intent of the question though... No, I would not limit myself to only grassroot bands to download.

I think there is still some confusion here about my position...

Piracy laws, sharing info regulations and such (music, movies, data), does have a place to be in our laws...

In regards to people doing it to make money..

In otherwords... if someone makes copies of music (labelled or not) and SELLS them, then they are most definitely breaking a law I don't think they should... The same type of law that I think that label companies are breaking by their robbery of artists...

For an individual to download (copy) information off the net to enjoy for themselves, I don't consider it to be the same thing.

 

You got your views all fucked up and ass backwards...

 

I don't think so.

 

I think so.

 

Don't worry Tom, Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead, Chuck D (of Public Enemy), MC Lars, the Grateful Dead, Disturbed, Joss Stone, Moby, 50 Cent, Jason Mraz, Shakira, Vince Neil (Motley Crue), the Beastie Boys, Blur, the Gorillaz, Norah Jones, Steve Winwood, Heart, and Nelly Furtado agree with us.

And according to Pew Research, only 5% of musicians disagree, while 35% think file sharing has helped their careers. (And I suppose most are indifferent )

 

I believe you do lol

Which I will give you more credit for then I give most people. You have at least put thought into your position...

I still disagree with it... lol But at least its more then just a regurgitation of "it's wrong"...

 

Thank You.

 

That's great, i'm glad already massively established artists agree that it shouldn't be about the money

how about they share out the wealth a bit?

"... what was that Thom, you'd rather sit on your yacht in Malibu? Ok.. well I tried."

 

These threads start to get really confusing when people are posting at the same time...

 

If you're on about me, I meant Thom Yorke, not you

 

No, I was 'on' about the fact that my posts are not after the posts I was replying to, though they were when I posted them....

As in, I look back to see what was just said, and there are three messages in between the time I hit reply, and post...

edited to add...

If I had a Yacht in Malibu, I'd sell it and buy a tractor...

 

This is assuming that the people who are downloading the music illegally would otherwise be able to afford to buy it.

Some would, I suspect most wouldn't though.

 

Actually, Jason Mraz has said file-sharing is what allowed him to get famous. Fleet Foxes did too, actually.
And MC Lars, who I listed, isn't a very established artist, and has gone to court in defense of fans that got in trouble for illegal downloads, even when he was still rather small. (I posted his song that supports file sharing earlier in this thread.)

But how the fuck was I to list a bunch of indie artists, when you wouldn't recognize their names? But if you really insist (hey, I recognized one in that article, they're local and I've seen them live).

And I doubt many of the 2,656 musicians in the Pew research study were millionaires, only 5% of which said file-sharing hurts their career, with 35% saying it helps.

 

Fine, so long as you agree that the government is stealing our freedoms from us, our landlords are stealing money from us and that our boss at work is stealing our life.

In a way it is like robbing peter to pay paul.

 

The music will be better if they produce it for the love of music and not just to make money.