Here's what Forbes had to say. http://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybowyer/2012/11/21/how-a-failed-commune-gave-us-what-is-now-thanksgiving/
Which I have to but and set time for reading. Can you provide a link so if I want to go in further at least I have a summary of what evidence they have?
Actually it proves my point. By having guns it prevents crime from being worse. For ever one violent crime that is successful there were two that was prevented. If guns weren't available then we would have up to 3 times more crime.
I'm not saying the lack of evidence proves that there is a God. My point is you're in the same boat. You believe in a supernatural force. Plus I would argue that their is no valid evidence for evolution, the Big Bang, and planetary formation but that's another topic for another thread. That doesn't disprove that the supernatural exists. Aside from miracles like the Red Sea splitting the only things God had a hand in according to the Bible is setting everything in motion. He doesn't guides Jupiter in its orbit, he created Jupiter and the laws which governs Jupiter. You have yet to prove that its a bunch of fairies. big·ot [ˈbiɡət] NOUN a person who is intolerant toward those holding different opinions: "don't let a few small-minded bigots destroy the good image of the city" In other words I dislike people holding the opinion I disagree with. It's not disagreeing with someone's lifestyle or opinion. If I disagree with the idea that homosexuality is ok I'm not hating on the person holding that view. Can you name one major Christian terrorist organization in the western world, particularly in the US?
No. It's moral to implement policy that has been proven to work and reject those that failed like your proposals. Which begs the question of how do we define what is moral and the reasoning behind that definition.
From Merriam-Webster: Prejudice: a feeling of like or dislike for someone or something especially when it is not reasonable or logical Tell me why you don't like guns.
...especially when it is not reasonable or logical. So Moonglow doesn't like guns. Why do you feel you have to tell her to resolve her prejudices? Why do you assume her dislike is not reasonable or logical. Why do you consider yourself to be the metric by which logic and reason are defined? Where did you get this information? I own several guns.
Explain how dislike for guns is reasonable or logical. A gun is an inanimate object just like a toaster.
I dislike many inanimate objects. I don't like needles or dental drills, I have an aversion to atomic bombs and claymore mines, poison is on my no like list, there are many rap songs that suck, etc.
I am intervening for Me Again, because I am Me Again. And I am a male. I didn't say I like guns, I said I own several. I'm neutral on the like/dislike. I don't hunt, they are interesting mechanical devises, are okay for target practice, but are a pain to clean, so I haven't fired one in years.
You sound like me. I know guns don't commit crimes. Criminals commit crimes. Criminal will never surrender their guns. They're tools of their crimes. Lord knows, were a bad guy want to kill me, I'd like opportunity to fight back. I don't want to be a neutered victim, my fate left to the whim of a marauder.
Laguna So wouldn’t it be prudent to try and lessen or stop such lethal weapons getting into the hands of the criminal or irresponsible? That is the aim of prudent gun control, are you saying you are against that? Wouldn’t it be better to not live in such fear for your life?
I am for increased restriction and regulation of guns. There is no reason to allow civilians to own assault weapons, large magazines, etc without them being highly regulated, registered, and difficult to obtain as is the case with automatic weapons.
American society is more violent than other western countries because people take their attitudes from their governments attitudes. The American government believes it has the right to shoot people who don't agree with it (usually in other countries). No other western country does this any more. The American people merely follow their government lead.