How do you disprove physics?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by AceK, Jul 8, 2014.

  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No science is not on shaking grounds, dogmatic religions are.

    Science does set parameters. That is what it is all about. It looks at the world and extracts certain concepts that can be agreed upon by experimentation. That it can prove are correct concepts for the time and place they are used. However, the concepts are always subject to change and redefinition as more of the natural world is exposed. As more aspects of the table are revealed. Science is continually looking at the table and finding new "connections" that it has to everything else and that have previously been ignored. Dogmatic religion has a certain concept of a table that never changes.
     
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  2. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Isn't any dogma not based on facts on shaky grounds, regardless if they are scientific, religious, economical etc.?
     
  3. Anaximenes

    Anaximenes Senior Member

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    The inexpressible, eh?... is not on shaky grounds. :D
     
  4. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    How are dogmas inexpressible?
     
  5. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    But facts always subject to change depending on how the fact is defined. If they are not subject to change based on new observations, then they are dogma...unchangeable.
     
  6. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    So when they're not based on facts it does not really matter in what department it happen to fall in.
     
  7. thedope

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    I would say dogma in general the culprit of dogmatic lack of facility to measure things on a standard scale. They create their own private exchanges which may be at odds with other private exchanges. What makes science useful is that it regards all phenomena in terms of standard measures or universally calibrated measuring devices. Political authority or constitutional law making does not use standardized measuring devices any more than religious dogmas do.
     
  8. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    But the U.S. constitution, among others, is not dogmatic in that any portion maybe changed at any time. It is not held to be absolute. There are mechanisms provided to allow for change, and even those mechanisms maybe changed.
     
  9. Anaximenes

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    They exist somewhere else you are not at. For another, they exist at the moment now for knowledge; I don't know how to explain. This is worrying me. I want a lot from the middle east; it was and continues to be only achievable by atheist trust.
     
  10. soulcompromise

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  11. themnax

    themnax Senior Member

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    you don't "disprove physics" and you don't benefit from doing so. but knowledge is not cast in stone.
    understanding continues to evolve, along with tools to explore it with, and their continued generating of new data.
    there will always be more to learn, in every aspect of existence.
     
  12. Tyrsonswood

    Tyrsonswood Senior Moment Lifetime Supporter

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    Levitating...
     
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  13. WrongVerb

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    I have a pithy way to summarize my thoughts on this subject:

    Valuing belief over knowledge leads to confusion.
    Valuing knowledge over belief leads to understanding.
     
  14. The problem with science is the scientists.
     

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