How do you disprove physics?

I generally make it all up as I'm typing with the sole purpose to irk people. :2thumbsup:
As long as what I'm typing makes sense to me as I'm typing it, I just go with that. But the fun thing about talking science stuff is you can almost come up with anything and no one can really tell you right from wrong. If science is gospel to folks and time travel is a serious topic along with worm holes and other universes and dimensions etc. then I'll see y'all on the other side as I trot past on my half unicorn half Pegasus and then I'll go back in time to genetically modify it with some dragon DNA. XD

 

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magnetism also "has to" exist, or things don't make sense as well. electromagnetism can't be seen, but it can easily be proven to infact exist. The electromagnetic force interacts with ordinary matter so it can easily be detected. Even if it could not be detected directly it could still however be inferrd to exist and the equations the define the behavior of matter and energy call for it. Dark matter is inferred the same way but is trickier and more exotic since it does not directly interact with ordinary matter, it does interact with space itself tho.

 

well you use computers and maybe you play computer games maybe? All of this would be impossible without science.

As to the op,I would say that even given infinite
time,there are some questions we will never know the answer to.Maybe this is why some people cultivate an attitude of faith.Personally,I
am interested in science but resist final conclusions.I find myself always taking one step back whilst consolidating what I think I know.

 

Science is the best and only accurate method we have to investigate the physical universe. No doubt about that. In pre-scientific ages all people could do really was to either believe in revealed religion or speculate.

What science doesn't tell us much about are things such as consciousness. But in the future science may expand into new areas.

Since the laws of physics can be demonstrated to be true, there's no way you can disprove physics. Equally, there's no way you can disprove religious beliefs, but they can't be demonstrated to be true. Also, other than personal preference or cultural conditioning, there are no real grounds to say one religion is true while others are false, even though they believe different things.

 

Our science is very much formed out of our biological and mental formation
as a species.We have formulated our models according to the structure of our anthropocentric mindset.There could perhaps be a myriad other ways of imposing order on the physical world

 

I don't think science is properly characterized as "imposing order on the physical world." It's discovering order that's already there.

 

Meagin

"...and so on. Science is always theoretical and open to debate and verification, dogmatic religion is not. "
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Am I to really hear what you are saying then? Should all scientists pack it up and go home now then?....Medical advancements would never had been made without science...nor going to the moon....nor sitting in front of this computer today, and on and on.....but science is just theory.....and the good book is fact, I know....

 

That which you see- is not: and for that which is, you have no words.

Unless you see, you believe not: what is told you, you accept not.

He who is discerning knows by the word; and the ignorant stands gaping.

That beauty of His is not seen by the eye: that music of His is not heard by the ear.


Love it is that pervades the whole world, few are there who know it fully:
They are blind who hope to see him by the light of reason, that reason which is the cause of separation.

The House of Reason is far behind!

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Loose translation from Kabir's Poem.

Anyway, apart from this poem, is it that you are the first person to come up with this question?
This has been asked many times, by many people in the past.

The best answer is given by swami Vivekananda in his literature, widely available.

 

yeah, gravity is only a theory.... you can't prove it exists! and magnets are witchcraft....
watch yourself some Cosmos, some Neil Degrasse Tyson and educate yourself.

 

I agree,but it's something of a feedback loop between what's there and how we see it.

 

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If you wanna cook a meal you don't buy the whole supermarket, you pick up what you need along with a few other things that look interesting. May as well, there's always tomorrow night.

 

Something in that.

I'd say it's about an accurate description of the universe.

 

The dark ages for the supermarkets of the planet.

 

Apparently, we're in a recession.

 

When people claim that all of science is nothing but theories and beliefs, I wonder how they explain the fact that airplanes fly every day, proving a lot of different scientific facts over and over. None of them ever talk about that. Or how about light bulbs and electric power plants? You turn on the switch, and everything works the way it was expected to work by the people who understand all that stuff.

I hate to even bring this up, but I have heard religious nuts say that various kinds of fake scientific evidence has been planted by God to fool nonbelievers. That's the way they explain away a lot of stuff.

 

why would God give people a brain, with reason so that we can realize things about the universe and the world we live in, things that the more you look and the more you learn become increasingly undeniable? science does not necessarily rule out the possibility of God's existence. it does however seem to require looking at things with a sense of rationality.

people used to think the earth was flat, and that there was far less to the history of the world than there actually is. then they thought the earth was the center of the universe. now we know the sun isn't even the center and our solar system is closer to the outer edge of our galaxy than to the center. im not sure how our galaxy is positioned relative to the rest of the structures in the universe but im not sure there is really anthing that could be called the center since the greater structure is pretty much the same in all directions

i guess you could say that we're in the center of the "observable" universe, but that's only because we can observe a limited distance in each direction because at the rate of expansion the light from some objects that were very far from us shortly after the big bang will never reach us because the light hasn't had time to, and never will.

 

There are different kinds of people who deny science because of ideology, belief etc.
One example I recently encountered was talking to a vegan friend. I pointed out that very likely all vegans are deficient in Omega 3 fatty acids because the most important ones can't be found in a vegan diet, and the body can only produce very small amounts of the important EPA and DHA from the Omega 3 (ALA) found in some seeds and other veggie sources.

The response is to attack nutritional science as a scam perpetrated by the meat industry. You can't win in such a discussion.
It's basically the same line as people who say God put dinosaur fossils there to fool the unbelieving scientist.

I don't think it's the idea of God that's the problem. It's the dogmas and ideologies that are embodied in the traditional religions.
If you believe the world was made in 7 days just over 6,000 years ago, and believe that if you don't stick to that belief God will punish you, then you will tend to reject any scientific data that contradicts that.
It's a question of the brain, or at least the rational faculties being clouded over by ideology and sometimes fear. So it seems to me.

 

Do they think anybody who claims to have flown in an airplane is a part of a vast conspiracy? And what do they think is going on inside a nuclear power plant? Horses running on a treadmill?