How can god not exist?

Discussion in 'Agnosticism and Atheism' started by nephthys, Jun 25, 2004.

  1. storch

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    I'll take that as what you mean to say.
     
  2. themnax

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    not only no but hell no. excessive procreation, combined with medicine to extend life, results in overpopulation. this is a bad thing.

    sexual activity, lowers ambient aggressiveness. in the absence of excessive procreation, this is a good thing.

    doesn't have too much to do with the topic question in either case though.
     
  3. storch

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    Did you know that adding your opinion to the off-topic content is a continuation of that which "doesn't have too much to do with the topic question."
     
  4. Indy Hippy

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    Sex :ssmokeit::rockon: oh yeah
     
  5. storch

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    But yes, the topic is "How can God not exist." Well, if his parents had not engaged in unprotected sex, then God would not have been born. That's one way that it could be that God would not exist. There, I've merged sex with the thread topic.

    On the other hand, if God had a fatal accident, such as slipping and falling from Heaven and landing squarely on the Washington Monument or one of the larger pyramids, that, too, could result in God not existing. Of course, if there is a Heaven to accomodate deceased Gods, he wouldn't really not exist then, would he? And even in the absence of a heavenly resting place for clumsy, deceased gods, he would always, as they say, live on in our hearts and memoies; well, in the hearts of those who had come to appreciate him and his governing style, anyway.
     
  6. Indy Hippy

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    Our Lord and savior anally raped by the Washington monument
     
  7. NoxiousGas

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    Well at least I'm glad you recognize that they are no "supernatural" events and what I have/do experience is simply phenomena that our understanding hasn't yet fully grasped.
    I guess you are not familiar with me if you think I am not familiar with scientific principles, actually I venture that I am actually much, much more knowledgeable in that area than you, my friend.
    You are just making asinine assumptions based on YOUR incomplete understanding of the religious/spiritual topics/events that I speak of, and the "picture" you have painted in your mind of what a "Christian is or isn't.
    Sorry Storch, I refuse to conform to YOUR assumptions. :)

    My tree analogy is fine, you failed to take into account what I said about maintaining direction and intent, that would fall under "resisting temptation".

    Then there's the part that is almost obligatory and ALWAYS illustrates an individuals lack of comprehension when it comes to Christianity.

    When I make comment about things which were recorded in the NEW TESTAMENT you, like so many others, dredge up crap from the OLD TESTAMENT to try and bolster your argument.
    Well here is a news flash for ya,

    THEY ARE DIFFERENT COVENANTS AND CANNOT BE DIRECTLY COMPARED.

    Seriously, why does that fact elude so many???

    I guess it's because it's the easy and lazy way to "win" the argument (in their own minds), I guess. :rolleyes:
    Lame because all it ever really does is exemplify the individuals lack of knowledge concerning the topic, as in this case.


    One final thought, if you think a person needs to "change" to be a Christian or please God, than you really don't "get it" at all.
    All a person needs to be is open to the change and allow it to happen.

    It's kind of like taking LSD, if you haven't experienced it yourself, there is absolutely know way you can understand or relate to it and all your assumptions are off target.
     
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  8. Indy Hippy

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    You sir are ironically hilarious
     
  9. NoxiousGas

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    and you sir have failed to be worth replying to in the future.
     
  10. thedope

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    This is pro-creative. Aggressive and defensive both stem from the same conditional apprehension .
     
  11. thedope

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    No one puts new wine in old skins, a preamble teaching on how to apprehend this material.
     
  12. storch

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    Well, NG, you made the assumption that I don't understand christianity. Not my problem, but yours. I've experienced this thing you've found value in. But I've moved on. I'm sorry that doesn't sit well with you. If what you have today floats your boat, then have at it.

    I thought that the biblical book of Thessolonians was in the New Testament. If fact, that's why I brought it up in relation to what the will of God was concerning fornication; I did not dredge up the Old Testament. You probably need to slow down a bit. You're dropping bombs out your hatch without first checking to see if the hatch is even open.

    And in response to me saying that supernatural events are natural if they happened, you tell me that I have a less complete understanding of religious and spiritual matters than you because you guess I am not familiar with your understanding of scientific principles. What that has to do with what I said about supernatural events, I do not know, and I'm thinking you don't either, unless you're attempting to pull rank on me or some other such nonsense.

    And I'm sure you're right about it being like taking LSD. I certainly recall that about it. And your tree analogy fails because a tree will not corrupt itself; a human will. So . . .
     
  13. Indy Hippy

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    Yep hilarious.
     
  14. themnax

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    and sexual repression very unambiguously creates apprehension.
     
  15. rak

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    I know.Unicorns I can handle. People, maybe, but God?
     
  16. Okiefreak

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    What about Superstring? The multiverse? Quarks?
     
  17. themnax

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    well there's only one reason there would be a god, and that is if a god felt like being.
    if it needed any other reason then it felt like it, i don't think it would really be a god.

    of course i could be mistaken, but that is my own impression, clearly.

    as for those other things, well diversity and subsets, so why not?
     
  18. rak

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    Just as you mentioned those things, I started reading up on them. It all sounds really interesting.
     
  19. Ayn Marx

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    I won't attempt to argue your central point apart from suggesting we could be mistaken assuming such an entity needs to experience anything like feelings.
    I want however to throw a brick into the wasps nest. Why is it so many of our species imagine they can know, describe and define an entity such as a deity and then debate his, her, it's attributes as if we actually know what we're talking about?
    "And for me, that utterance may be given unto me, that I may open my mouth boldly, to make known the mystery of the gospel."
    Ephesians Ch:6.V:19.
     
  20. thedope

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    What is sexual repression? Seems an ambiguous term from the outset.
    I use the term apprehension in the sense of the act or power of perceiving or comprehending. Do you think resisting lustful impulses that are popularly inappropriate such as rape qualifies as sexual repression?
     

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