Hitler.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by RichardTheFrog, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    There are plenty of other tyrants who've come and gone with time who's extermination numbers far exceeded Hitler's. Yet it's always Hitler who gets vilified the most out of all of them. Methinks it's because he lost a war against the world, and losers of wars get the history books stacked heavily against them. Stalin didn't lose no wars. Yet his extermination numbers nearly double what Hitler pulled off.
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    I'm sure everyone has heard of this one, but errm I dunno, man. He held that grudge for a very long time if that was the exact cause of it all.

    We are talking 25+ years pre World War One. It makes much more sense like Asmo says, maybe something triggered during the war, he did blatantly accuse the Jews of hiding in offices and not fighting in the fronts. The idea that he's upset about art work seems silly. You don't stand in a street with guns aimed at you for that. XD
    There had to be a much more intellectual reason IMO. Given how anti Semetic Europe was during the times, it's highly likely he had observed in writing, site, hearing.. exactly what the rest of the population was saying.

    Art work, I don't buy that at all. =\
     
  3. Dejavu~

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    Oh yeah, you can tell he's a genius just by looking at him.

    He complained a fuckload. Jews are n't good enough blah blah bitch bitch, wipe them out, further the fatherland. What a ****. Every time I see footage of his face, I see a complaint. lol
     
  4. Irminsul

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    I see you whinging right here too. Every time I see your username I'll think "whinger" ;)

    Err errytime I see Hitlers face wahhh
    Wahhh he complained err

    Christ haven't you seen a politician on the TV before?
     
  5. Dejavu~

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    Sure. :-D And I'll just think of you as an intellectual. Like Hitler. lol
     
  6. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Don't think of me that highly yeeesh, I ride horses, I am no dictator.
     
  7. plumbellend

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    Respect !!!!

    He failed. He was insane ! He met the end !
     
  8. BlackBillBlake

    BlackBillBlake resigned HipForums Supporter

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    A lot of wars have very little to do with race. The wars of the middle ages for instance were fought over territory mainly, or religion.

    I think religion and culture along with national identity are behind a lot of conflicts. WW II really had little to do with Hitler's persecution of the Jews - in fact the scale of it only became evident once the war was over.
     
  9. Logan 5

    Logan 5 Confessed gynephile Lifetime Supporter

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    Hitler was doing well for his country, then the Jews declared and economic war on him (I don't remember why). I think that started the whole mess.

    Look at todays technology. The German influence is there. Even in today's nuclear submarines. Jet aircraft. The hippy favorites- the VW Bug & VW Van. Volkswagon- a car for the people. Spearheaded originally by...you got i- Hitler.

    People ignore the good he did because fo the bad he did. sadly, the bad he did he did no exactly do himself. Goering and Himmler are not angels by any means. That is a problem you face when you have so many advisors. You loose touch with the people you are serving.

    And not to forget that he also had syphilis (or was it gonorrhea?) from when he was a soldier in WW1. So had certainly had a boat load of problems.
    But in that I certainly by no means support the slaughter of millions of people. That was wrong that's way beyond wrong.
     
  10. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    How many soldiers were in World War I? Did they all become Hitler? And obviously it wasn't because he was a painter. That was probably a joke.
     
  11. BlackBillBlake

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    Hitler definitely wanted to be a painter, that's well documented and many of his paintings survive, although IMO they're not that great.

    It's true that millions of men fought in WW I, and on the German side there was a feeling of betrayal among the Army when Germany signed the armistice. Hitler articulated the feelings of many. That's one of the keys to understanding why he got elected. Along with the conditions imposed on Germany at Versailles.
     
  12. RichardTheFrog

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    National identity comes from ethnicity. Religion is part of culture. Culture comes from ethnicity. The most important part of culture is language, which is the main barrier that separates people.

    Yes, perhaps his hatred for the Jews stemmed from a love of German people. He even went easy on the French and British (Germanic), in a way. As compared to the way he treated Slavic peoples.
     
  13. BlackBillBlake

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    Hitler once described the British as 'a jew rotted race'. He also said 'they are not our natural enemies'. He saw the slavic races as inferior to the aryan Germans. How wrong he was.
     
  14. Dejavu~

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    [​IMG]

    He seems ok here.
     
  15. BlackBillBlake

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    From the German side, expansion into eastern Europe gave them the opportunity to ethnically clense it of Jews.

    From the allied side, it had virtually no role. Britain declared war on Germany because Hitler's military expansion worried them. Not because they wanted to protect Jews. Anti semitism was common in both France and Britain. Hitler just had a more strident version of the same old thing.

    But my own view is that Himmler and Heydrich were the main architects of the halocaust. It's even possible that Hitler didn't know, or care to know all the details.
     
  16. Asmodean

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    Westside yo.
     
  17. Asmodean

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    To me it seems national identity and religion are often the front but it's nearly always for territory, power and/or influence. Economical, social, cultural (so sometimes national identity or religion CAN indeed be the main reason behind a war) or territorial influence/power/control. Secure and strengthen their own position.



    Yes, he was far from the only one. If you are interested in such topics why not look into some history books? Otherwise you will probably be asking these kind of questions on internetforums until your 120.
     
  18. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    Did you know that Aryan people have nothing to do with Germanic people?

    Hitler's facts were wrong.

    The Aryan people migrated into what is now Iran and even into India.

    The Germanic people were the ones that the Roman writers talked about that they could not control and eventually overtook the Roman Empire.

    I have read many history books.
     
  19. Asmodean

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    Everybody knows that that ubermensch bullshit was wrong dude.

    So why are you asking all these (to be honest fairly stupid) questions then? Are you bored?
     
  20. BlackBillBlake

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    I agree. Even wars like the crusades or the 30 years war had huge political dimensions. For Hitler it was about creating a German empire.
     

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