Hitler.

Discussion in 'Random Thoughts' started by RichardTheFrog, Nov 19, 2014.

  1. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    I live in the state of Florida in the United States.

    There are laws in our statutes prohibiting gathering for the purposes of teaching Naziism.

    And Communism for that matter.
     
  2. Irminsul

    Irminsul Valkyrie

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    Laws do not state

    "you cannot say on an internet forum that you respect Hitler"

    What you are even mentioning is just erratic nonsense and it hints to me just how much of a poor character you really are. You're making up things to scare me. And you're failing miserably at it.
     
  3. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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    With all due respect--it's not easy to find anyone that says that they respect Hitler. What would there be to respect when everything he

    did led to millions of dead people.
     
  4. RichardTheFrog

    RichardTheFrog Newbie

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    He was a good military leader.... but so were a lot of people.

    And to be fair, he is not the only person who engaged in genocide. Nobody ever calls the King of Spain a monster for killing all the Aztecs. And the conquistadors are possibly even seen as heroes.
     
  5. Irminsul

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    Well you found one and I'm not sorry for it. I'm not sorry for my ideologies or the way I think, what I believe or anything... they're my personal burdens, no one else.
    There's an awful lot to respect, the problem is most folk only know about the genocide and war.

    Even glorified people that are respected on mass every single day, we don't know what they're really like, they could be perverted miscreants for all we know, and every now and again a news story will shock us. Yet we respect them until that moment.

    "respect" is tricky, y'all are like "oh this girl respects Hitler, she must really admire him and love him and be a nazi and hate Jews and want a perfect white race".

    And I'm like "all i said was I liked that a guy had a plan and followed through with it" -shrug-
     
  6. scratcho

    scratcho Lifetime Supporter Lifetime Supporter

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  7. BlackBillBlake

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    Provocative little man, the fuhrer. Even all these years after his demise, still causes heated emotions.

    Generally I don't like him much, but I think there's no denying that he had some kind of power over people when he gave speeches, and was able to cast his spell over many who proved useful to him. I read the account by Albert Speer of his first meeting with Hitler, and it's clear enough that Speer was captivated straight away' So I think Hitler had a kind of personal magnetism or charisma.

    His racist views were deplorable, but actually only an intensification of the anti-semitism that had haunted Europe throughout the Christian era. That's not to seek to justify it of course, but it isn't that the Nazis were the first to persecute or kill Jews. They just did it on an industrial scale.

    As a military commander, Hitler was useless. One of the worst commanders in history. In my opinion, he had by far the best army of WW II, but led them to total defeat where they could have won.
     
  8. RichardTheFrog

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    Even at the time the Nazi's were coming to power, there were laws in the United States that restricted rights of people of African descent.

    Also, the policies of probably every European colony were ethnically biased.

    I read that in 1948, after the war, signs in London stores said "No Blacks or Irish."
     
  9. BlackBillBlake

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    Racism in one form or another is something that has only become unacceptable in relatively recent times.

    In colonial times, I think they used it as a way of justifying taking over territories from their native inhabitants, or enslaving them.. That's racism against people like Indians, Blacks and so on. They were generally regarded by European imperialists as inferior races who would benefit from the rule of the white man and his religion.

    European anti-semitism however was a different thing, and had it's roots in Christianity. The Jews were seen as the Christ killers, were alleged to practice magic and other abominations. Persecutions and killings went on for centuries on and off,

    Hitler grew up in a society that was already quite anti-semitic.
     
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  10. r0llinstoned

    r0llinstoned Gute Nacht, süßer Prinz

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    I prefer kitlers (cats that look like hitler)

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  11. Irminsul

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    People fail to realize how anti Semitic the rest of Europe was at the time too.

    Poland gets the most guilt from people, because they were the first to go down, but pre WW2 "Poland for the Poles" banners hung all over the nation. That was not a multicultural slogan at
    all.

    And what can we say about the Lithuanians, Estonians and Latvians who voluntarily signed of to the German forces, and Waffen SS, just for a chance to kill the Reds? Or mop up the remaining Jews in towns passed through? It's not even forgotten history, it was history never taught but in fact happened. And the rebel alliances of these three nations continued fighting the Red Army well into the 50's. But the books would have you believe that only the German Nazis hated Jews, it could have only been Germans who wanted to fight.
     
  12. RichardTheFrog

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    Yes, I am familiar with the fact that European nations began deporting Jews and/or confining them to ghettos back in medieval times.

    You might say that all wars are racist wars. That is what separated the Greeks from the Persians from the Egyptians from the Arabs, etc.

    You could take that back to times of hunter-gatherer bands that were suspicious of neighboring bands.

    Race is what ties one group together and separates it from the others. However, as different groups began to trade and socialize with each other, then they began to settle their differences.

    And, in fact, see that they weren't very much different in the first place. Every human being shares 99.9% of their DNA and only 17% of that 0.1% difference is related to ethnicity.
     
  13. tonydoe420

    tonydoe420 Banned

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    ah. he was rejected from the Vienna academy of art. by a mostly Jewish panel. he believed that Jews had taken over the art world. and there art was immoral and worthless
     
  14. Irminsul

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    Imagine if like, he was rejected on a house loan or something, motherfucker would have gone FULL BERSERKER RAGE MENTAL. XD
     
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  15. Asmodean

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    OP, are you aware of the existence of history books? He probably got mentally fucked up as a soldier in WO1. Or do you really think it was more likely because of his painting career?
     
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  16. Tyrsonswood

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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBO5dh9qrIQ
     
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  17. Meliai

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    Hitler probably could have went down in history as one of the best leaders of the post WWI era if he had not tried to eradicate Jews and other minorities and conquer the entire western world in one fell swoop. Dude did some good things for Germany, but he was also a maniac.
     
  18. Deranged

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    Brought germany out of an economic depression but not worthy of any sort of admiration due to human rights atrocities
     
  19. YouFreeMe

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    Sometimes, people get caught up in a particular situation, even if it isn't true. Things happen so fast, people question you, and you don't want to be wrong so you keep fighting for it. It can become an all-consuming whirlwind. Hitler was persuasive enough that he even believed himself. His timing was also convenient. He saw that Germany had a need, and he rose just in time to fill it, finding a perfect and convenient scapegoat with the Jewish people. Crazy things can happen when a charismatic leader steps up and gives direction to an impoverished and recently defeated people.
     
  20. NoxiousGas

    NoxiousGas Old Fart

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    here ya go Richard, some munchies for you and Adolph.
     

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