Guy Rapes His 12 Year Old Daughter, Gets 60 Day Sentence

This could certainly be interesting. If he then should be hanged depends on her answer.

 

Its the best justice that money can buy. The more wealth inequality we have the more scum floats to the top, but that's the American way! Notably, the closer you get to an urban center the higher women's heals become explaining why we don't even have laws enforcing equal pay for women because they obviously think they can get a better deal by selling themselves to the highest bidder.

 

A couple of years ago a man made the news because he walked in on a man raping his daughter and killed him. He wasnt charged for anything, proving that occassionalky the justice system is functional

I agree, i am not a violent person by any means but if anyone ever touches my child i would have no problem administering a bit of vigilante justice.

 

This reminds me of the outcome of a trial where Hillary Clinton defended a rapist who lied his way through a polygraph test

 

Well guys, we almost made it through an entire thread without mentioning the election. Better luck next time!

 

Maybe. But how to define what 'is beyond anything', and how are we to trust that 100% proven guilty is 100% given past failures in such matters?

 

Only 60 days???

Thats sad.......

 

Sorry Bill, but when he starts hanging, he sure is gonna see what life has dealt him in death! Rape or killing of a child! Hang them!

 

It Does say Repeatedly Though mate ! I would find it hard not to want to Kill him Myself with my Bare Hands
Poor Kid she should be Playing with Dolls and Dressing up not having to go through That Shit
I wont post anymore on this Thread I think You all understand My feelings about this kind of thing !!

 

I don't believe the state should be executing anyone. I think we've gone too far in rehabilitating some criminals, however. The point of prison is to keep these people from interacting with the general population. It's a simple and effective strategy, put them in a separate location. What they do behind bars is their own goddamned business. All I really want a criminal like this to know is that he/she is not welcome in the general population, and they can ruminate upon that sad fact or not, depending on how deep of thinkers they are. This is an outrage, though, and there have been a string of related cases recently. A guy in Iowa raped a 2 year-old girl and posted a video of it to Facebook, and the judge gave him like 6 months or something. I'm not sure what sort of message these judges are trying to send to all the people who are interested in raping little girls and boys. Give me some of whatever the judge was smoking.

 

I always think that the Death Penalty has a finality about it only for the offender - with the victim forever scarred.
The cost to keep - be it solitary or in/for rehabilitation reasons - again sees a consequence where society pays for such allowance and potentially a return upon eventual release to a possible continuation of the acts - which doesn't seem fair
It is the fair and just punishment which should fit the crime that causes debate.
For me, sex of serial measure crimes should carry with it medical / chemical castration - with suitable retribution that sees a degree of sufferance on the perpetrator - and which the victim is consulted upon - for it is closure for them which should take precedence

 

I think actually that maybe you should give others some credit for having similar feelings to your own. I said that I do experience a dilemma over such issues. On one hand I feel anger, I feel that anyone who could do such things is indeed a piece of the lowest imaginable scum. It disgusts me, and even makes me feel sometimes like humans are a diseased and flawed experiment by nature gone hopelessly wrong -
On the other hand I'm not convinced that killing them is the answer, because once you have the death sentence, innocent people are certain to get it. And to my mind, a life spent in solitary with no internet or tv would be worse than death by hanging.

 

Trouble with that is that hanging as practised in modern times is a pretty much instantaneous death. The neck snaps on the fall, and it's all over. 30 or 40 years of solitary would be far worse to endure.

 

This is true, but I would like to think the fear felt in those last moment would be hell!

Read this gentleman's memoirs, it's not so cut and dry!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albert_Pierrepoint

 

I read Pierrepoint's bio many years ago. Evidently he helped hang the Nazi's at Nuremberg after WWII, and as well as being hangman, kept a pub in Yorkshire.

I do understand why people want to see the death penalty brought back. If there was ever a referendum on the issue I think the hanging side would win by a mile (of course there will never be such a vote). However, I also feel that I have to stick to what I believe to be right even when my gut feeling is one of complete revulsion over crimes like these.

And even if the UK were to re-introduce hanging, it would almost certainly only be for pre-meditated murder, as it was before the 60's.

 

The problem with castration is that as I understand it, if it's done after puberty, the sex drive and the ability of a eunuch to get an erection remains. That's why the Ottomans and others who kept eunuchs had them cut when they were still sexually immature. Maybe my information is incorrect, but that's what I've read.

In Iran they let the victim pull the lever to hang the criminal I believe. There was a case where a court sentenced a man to have acid dropped into his eyes by his female victim. Myself, I don't much want to live in a society like that.

 

Wiki says: - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chemical_castration
I do think that the victim needs 'closure' but I think I'd temper any Draconian methodology - for "with power comes responsibility"

 

Chemical or medical castrations don't work on the mind..they still have their hands!

 

The death penalty sends the message that life isn't ultimately sacred or worth preserving, which turns everything to crap. If we engage in it, then we're constantly going to have a cloud of guilt hanging over our heads, whether we can reason that we were justified or not.

We need to rise above that kind of vengeance. We need to support victims as a real community and forget about the criminals in prison, as they haven't proven themselves worthy of an ounce of our attention.

 

Trouble is that wiki says in countries where they use it, sentences are often reduced.Probably it's seen as a way to rehabilitate paedophiles, something I'm not sure about, even with drugs. That might actually give less closure to families then a long stretch inside. Given the penny pinching attitude of the current government, I expect they'd see it as a way to save money,so shorter sentences would almost certainly be offered here for those who agreed to the drugs. If they are to be locked up for life, then the treatment would appear redundant, as they would never have a chance to be near a child again. If closure through life imprisonment of offenders is expensive, that's a pity, but probably worth it.