Generation Z Is Fucked

I think my son is in generation Z..he's still very young. I fear for his future every day, but not in a normal way. I mean, i do worry if he'll be able to afford college and get a job and an affordable mortgage...but past that, I worry about whether he'll even get a decent primary school education, whether he'll grow up in a land where he can enjoy our lakes and streams and national parks or if they'll be too polluted and the parks will just be used for oil drills. I worry about how climate change will affect him as i've seen a pretty fast acceleration just in my lifetime, who knows what it will be like when he is 50 years old. And of course i worry about the threat of world war.

I dont think generation z will have it worse than the generations that saw wwi, the depression, and wwii but it will probably be worse than the baby boomers (i see we have some smug baby boomers in this thread) and generation X and to a lesser degree even the millenials.

Of course i just realized this is the UK forum and i'm in the US so my perspective is different. At least you guys have affordable healthcare. And you're not currently being ruled by an administration who wants to decimate the public school system and all environmental regulations, among other things.

 

I feel a lot of millenials are a lot more positive than the babyboom generation here. Sure, there are a lot of serious concerns but besides all the apathic or self obsessed people there is also the other half, making inspiring and significant progress and changes. Just like in the 50s and 60s when there was an inspiring mood for progressive change (while at the same time being scared to death with the cold war, nuclear bombs, commies, acid rain ), it seems to depend on the POV and/or the crowd you take notice of most. It can go either way. Saying with certainty that generation z will be fucked feels kind of ridicilous to me. I do agree though that the supposedly idealistic babyboom generation of the former century has let us (or themselves?) down a bit. They are the most responsible for the decrease in biodiversity and increase in pollution. With proper regulations and enforcement we could do so much better so easily.

 

Positive about What I ask ? blaming The previous generation for your Lot in life seems to Be the new thing Here !
As is moaning about every fucking thing
All through the ages there have Been Challenges For generations and they have got on with things the best they can
dont remember Me saying it was my parents or grandparents fault we had no money when I was a kid

If generation Z is Fucked then its because generation Y taught them to expect too much for Fuck all

 

I think what's also missing here, is, my generation may be the baby boomers.. What ever that really means! But before us, there were far bigger families, due to no contraception, and no jobs etc for women, it was the norm..But! The wars 1 and 2 decemated the population, certainly in the UK..It was up to us to increase the population..But! It was the next generation that were the baby boomers if anything, suddenly you didn't have to marry to have children, the sexual revolution took off, then the benefit system was set up..So in the UK, it was not our generation that were boomers..So does this say something different about the USA boomers? I had three children, one of which doesn't want children, one has one, won't have more, one has 4 in 2 marriages..In fact, I'd say, I haven't personally added to the baby boomers at all..So who were you referring to now you know me?

 

If generations can by definition span up to decades then this technically means that two members of a generation can mate and produce a child from the same generation as they are, which is technically impossible due to relativistic constraints.

 

Even though baby boomers like to go on and o about millenials being entitled, it isnt really the case at all - they're actually generally less materialistic and more conscious about cost than previous generations due to coming of age during a recession. There are studies to back this up. And i know, at least in the US, millenials dont have a lot of extra money to spoil their gen z offspring or teach them to expect too much, when daycare costs total over a thousand dollars a month.

 

Also, where does gen z st art and end anyways

 

And what happened to Generations A to W?

 

When i used the word responsible i was not blaming the former generation in order to clear generation z or something lol. It's simply a fact that generation has put the world in its current situation, not all those 20 year olds. Can't that be stated without people taking it as a blame game or feel personally offended?

 

Right? No one is saying morrow and mally personally made it so the cards would be stacked against future generations lol, dont know why they're taking offense

If we really wanted to personally blame specific people, i would say Thatcher and Reagan..and maybe you have a dutch equivalent, asmo, or maybe your country is just perfect

But of course i think most of us know we cant blame any specific person, that it took many sloppy or selfish policies to create the current sociopolitical conditions

 

So what are you Doing about it ?

I started work at Fifteen as an Indentured Apprentice for a wage You wouldn't even get out of Bed for these days !
I am still working at Sixty six, never claimed dole in my life and have had one week sick since 1980 (last year )
I am now Comfortable Financially But I have Worked for it !
And guess what ? I never laid any blame on anyone because Things were tough

Future generations will have to Look after themselves just like Past ones Learned to do !

 

not Taking offence at anyone Mate Just stating that life has always been hard Unless you are Born with a silver spoon in your mouth and nobody owes You anything !!


No generation (Whatever Alphabetical Prefix ) is fucked unless they make it so !

 

But, see

Your generation has this attitude that if you work hard enough you can have a comfortable lifestyle and a comfortable etirement one day

Whereas i think my generation sees that even hard work doesnt neccessarily guarantee anything.

But i do keep coming back to the contrast between the UK and Europe and the US. I have friends who have worked their asses off since they were 16 too, but because they dont have health insurance an unfortunate illness could easily take away everything they've worked for.

And of course..mally, lets take the type of work you do. I'm not sure what it is specifically but i do have a general idea. Generally, that type of work paid for a solidly middle class lifestyle here 20 -30 years ago. I remember my brother's first job when he left the same army in 1997 paid $20 an hour, now you see the exact same company hiring for $10 for the same work, and they also hire less because a lot of their jobs have shipped to Mexico.

But i mean, i dont neccessarily disagree with you. We all have to figure out how to live. Millenials and Gen Z will simply have to find a different path for themselves because the path their parents and grandparents took isnt really working anymore.

I dunno though, i fear the people in power here in the US want to turn the country into a third world country. Right now we export low paying jobs to workers who make significantly less and have significantly lower standards of living. Or we bring them in illegally. But i feel like the ultimate aim is to make Americans accept a lower standard of living so they can take these jobs instead.

But i do realize this is the UK forum so i'm a bit off topic

 

No that's True But the alternative ( sitting on your ass and not bothering ) will guarantee That you DO end up with nothing !

Healthcare in the UK isnt free Meliai we pay for it every week until we are 65 it comes out of your wages
and we Have similar Problems as you do with the Mexicans coming over and working for less money!
There are Parallels Between the US and UK

 

I know it isnt free, i never said it was. Still completely different from the US

 

How did that happen? I ask because I know a few who were the same age that got all their higher ed paid for. Back in the 90's I was a mature student for a while, and the same applied to me. Had I been able to complete the course (social reasons intervened to stop me) I could have walked away with a degree and no bill - unless I'd borrowed money from a bank or something like that.

 

Difference Is we Have to pay for it whether we want to or not which is saving us from ourselves really !
If an "unfortunate illness " could take away everything I had worked for (as in your example ) I would make sure my Health insurance was up to date Personally
Also when I said Mexicans you know I didnt mean Actual Mexicans Dont You ?

 

I make a conscious effort on a daily basis to keep my ecological footprint as low as possible (within reason of course. Im aware being online for example also costs energy I don't fly budget airlines to get to my 7 day beach holiday, i use public transportation instead of driving everywhere, about 90% of my food is either local or organic, that kind of stuff, if more people did it we would have less concerns).
I don't have to care about money which i understand is also partly out of luxury. Not that im rich or fed with a silver spoon. I don't spend a lot of money on material stuff or holidays (just 2 things i see regular joes here spending too much on. Going on a foreign vacation at least once a year is pretty much a must it seems. Not talking about rich people here, just the average dutch working class citizen). I don't ask people to live exactly like i do btw. Just to make their own conscious effort.

 

Sure you said once that you worked Part time for your parents Delivering Cheese or something ?

 

Semi-unconscious humans I suppose.