First Helium Plasma Held By German Fusion Reactor

Hello,

some people complain about the amount of money they put into the Wendelstein experiment. IIRC it costs about 1.000.000.000 Euros in 18 years. That would be 500 million Euros per year, most of it goes into staff and buildings. That's not much. You can see that as jobs and jobs at the supplying companies.

Regards
Gyro

 

Except on a large scale

For Microwave far field energy transmission.

To get past all the problems with diffraction from stuff in the atmosphere and over long distances in space. Assuming they can ever get one to work at a output to input (Q) ratio > 5. A fusion reactor in space would be the only thing that could zap power to say mars.

Less efficient, but one could also use lasers for far field energy transmission.

A laser one....and you know where Im going with this....could easily be turned into .....a DEATH STAR!!!!

 

Hello,

my interjection was not meant so much on a technical level. The Germans barely get the stuff for the Syrian war together. On the other hand they are in big business selling weapons to other honourable countries and they had some experience with secret weapons in the past.

Regards
Gyro

 

Just saying think your right about small scale weapons

How would a laser blaster ever be more effective than a sniper rifle

But on a large scale

Someday, some star wars nut is going to build a DEATH STAR!!!

 

If you think this tech will be widespread and producing stable power in 20 years then maybe time to re-evaluate. I will bet my life savings that ITER or Greifswald will not even have started properly by then.

 

Hello,

you smell irony on a mile's distance, don't you ? The 20 years joke, that VG made, is nearly as old as the fusion ideas.

Regards
Gyro

PS: How much is your life savings? I need to know that so I can plan on what to do with the money .

 

There are a lot of other organizations around the world making attempts

I think ITER might end up being the most costly dud in history.

Someone else might beat them to the punch by 10 years

20 years i think sounds about right

 

Using current technology.... This is why new methods need to be worked on.

As far as portability... Not everybody needs a small personal bomb in their basement.

So working on new methods of utilizing the Sun's energy wouldn't have created jobs?


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Sigh..... People are stupid.

 

Hello,

I can't see how this is implied, but well, what could new methods be? There are basically photo-voltaic systems and solar thermal systems. There might be optimisations possible at the efficiency, but that's it. The jobs in photo-voltaic systems had been more than halved in Germany in the last few years. It's all in China now. It's a bit different regarding solar thermal systems, where Germany is still successful in the world markets. But I don't know if that sector needs much more research.

If you had been said that over the last decades way too much money in form of subsidies and maybe in form of research money as well had been spent on nuclear fission power I would have agreed. Tons of tax money are thrown on energy companies to make nuclear fission energy competitive. If such a facility f* up the tax payer again have to bear the consequences. And after decades of using nuclear power we have still no idea what to do with the used fuel and how to get rid of old facilities.

Regards
Gyro

 

Very good.

 

y = A * f(K, L, H, N)

This is a function of real GDP or output. The variable A represents the level of technological knowledge or advancement of a society. It is a coefficient of the function, f(K, L, H, N) which is a constant return to scale function of capital (labor, human capital, physical capital, and natural resources).

think about asymptotically when that variable A grows exponentially and much faster than the function f() of capital. Asymptotically you would approach simply y = A, and the requirement of capital would tend to as close to zero as you can get (infinitesimal), though I don't believe all of those variables can actually be zero, but as close as makes no odds. In the limit of infinity, think about it.

At this point money becomes irrelevant, you no longer need but the tiniest amount of labor or capital to produce output that tends toward infinite ... (would this be the singularity?). Since you have to buy capital with money, .... see where this is going?

I talked to my economics professor the last day of class, when it was no lecture, and just Q&A and finally had a chance to talk to her about some of these conjectures I had which are really outside the scope of the class, and she said that yes ... mathematically these things make sense, and that it is possible that money could become irrelevant due to technology. (There were also other conjectures I had involving fractional reserve banking with greater than one reserve requirement where the series becomes divergent at in the limit of inifinity, the monetary supply becomes infinite, thus prices become infinite; and inflation becomes infinite (and everything would cost the same), and the value of money tends to zero; but since everyone has an infinite amount of money, you can spend an infinite amount over and over and still not lose any money: so of course at this point money is simply ... irrelevant as well). She also said that that seemed to be plausible, at least mathematically.

Of course these are also things most people would call quackery, but my economics professor didn't seem to think so. Theoretically at least ... this seems to be near the truth as to what will happen if we don't destroy ourselves first.

 

But the solow model at its base relies on the state having a markov property, something that may have been true in his lifetime, post WW2 through to the 80s, when much of growth did come from the rate of change of technology, not change in technology.

Apply what you said there to say something like the music industry, where all capital is now close the worthless, and pretty much every tune that can exist has been written, thus not independant of previous states, there is no technological growth in terms of new tunes to be created

Before we even get to free energy, we are already nearing the effects in some industries where technological advancement is worthless