Ex FBI/CIA Agents Ready To Blow the cover on Bush 9/11 Story...

Discussion in 'America Attacks!' started by Angel_Headed_Hipster, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    But keep in mind that it was never made official that WTC-7 was taken down by controlled demolition. The official report states that the building collapsed due to extensive fire damage, which of course is a total lie. No steel frame structure, let alone a skyscraper, has ever collapsed from fire alone. Photographs taken on 9/11 of WTC-7, pre-collapse, clearly show minimal damage to the building, with the exception of some small fires on the lower floors of the building.

    So, like you suggested, if we know that WTC-7 was indeed "pulled," would it not be wise to ask ourselves if the towers were "pulled" as well, especially considering WTC-7 fell perfectly straight down, as did the towers? (this is directed at Brookton)

    And exactly when were the explosive charges placed in the buildings? It had to have been days or weeks prior to the attacks. I highly doubt crews entered WTC-7 with it on fire to plant the charges, and within the 8 hour time period between the attacks on the towers and the collapse of WTC-7.

    This just shows us what a complex and clandestine operation this was.
     
  2. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    It is just beyond me, anybody who looks at who benefits can see the answer clearly....you don't even HAVE to go into scientifics....

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  3. BlackGuardXIII

    BlackGuardXIII fera festiva

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    I heard that it took one hour and fifty minutes from the time that contact was lost with the first of the four airliners until NORAD scrambled jets. I just want to know why their standard operating procedure was so blatantly ignored.

    When a prominent pro golfers private jet with 8 on board lost contact, jets were up within ten minutes and alongside within twenty.

    that was for a jet with 8 on board, why did it take almost two hours on 9 11?
     
  4. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Exactly....if those jet planes were scrambled to that pro golfers plane that quickly, yet they weren't scrambled for atleast 30 minutes for a full passenger airline headed in the complete opposite direction, possibly heading for the capital...there must be something deeper there...NORAD and the FAA don't just fuck up...

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  5. Brocktoon

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    Yes you DO have to go into Scientifics,
    However,

    Yes, please explain to me the 'Benefits' of murdering thousands of people?
     
  6. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's nothing new.

    Nero attacked Rome and blamed it on the Christians to start a war.

    Hitler burned the Reichstag and blamed it on the Dutch.

    Roosevelt allowed the Japanese to attack Pearl Harbor to use as a pretext to enter WW II.

    Governments have been known to use what is described as a problem-reaction-solution scenario. They manufacture a "terrorist" event, which triggers a reaction from the frightened people that "something must be done." This is followed by a plan of action devised by the government, which is a guise to push an agenda that often entails war, or the destruction of civil liberties, or both.

    9/11 served as a pretext to invade Afghanistan and Iraq, as well as destroy civil liberties at home, giving the government even more power and control over the people. Why would our government want to do this? Well, why did Hitler do what he did?

    These people have a strong lust for power and a one-world government, as many of the globalists have stated on record. They slowly usher in this one-world government through manipulation via terrorism and psyops. It's basically psychological warfare they use to manipulate the masses and frighten them into submission, which is pushed via the globlist-controlled mass media. A frightened public is an easily manipulated public, and one more accepting of whatever the government choses to impose on them in the name of false "security."

    Governments manipulate the media, which manipulates the people. For you to believe everything you hear on the news, means you believe everything that comes from the government, without question.

    MANY people within our government benefited GREATLY from the attacks of 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq. They make millions upon millions on weapons and construction contracts, while they seek to gain control over Iraq's rich oil reserves. The war in Iraq also serves to gain a foothold in the Middle East as part of the globalists' quest for global control . That's probably why the US is building Army bases in Iraq right now. They want to use Iraq as the launch pad for their other planned military actions in neighboring countries, like Iran and Syria.

    The ways in which they stand to gain are immeasurable.
     
  7. Brocktoon

    Brocktoon Banned

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    I have no idea why anyone would need to stage a massive and extremely risky consipiracy like this WHEN THERE ARE ALREADY MILLIONS OF PEOPLE HOW DESPISE THE USA AND WANT TO DESTROY IT.

    All on THEIR OWN!

    Man oh Man.. IF Bush and Cheney and Clinton DID spent decades formulating this very very expensive and complex Hoax (Risking their very lives to do so) then they ARE THE STUPIDEST PLANNERS ON EARTH BAR NONE!

    There are ALREADY many armed and angry people in PALESTINE ALONE who would LOVE to Attack the United States.

    Absolutely NO efficiency or need for anyone to fake a massive world-wide mass murder like this one... already PLENTY OF PEOPLE willing to do this for FREE!

    This is the whole problem with these conspiracy theories - they require MUCH MORE amazing series of coincedences, skill, planning, money and astonishing secrecy THAN THE APPARENT CONCLUSION ITSELF!

    Is it possible 13,000 thousand people are all 'Keeping a secret'?
    Not really.

    Is it possible there are 50 Jihadists in Afghanistan who are willing to do this thing on 9/11?
    ABSOLUTEY.
    Easy!

    They can EASILY find another 50 to do it again.
    Tomorrow.

    What kind of HAPLESS MORON would spend billions of dollars and murder hundreds in order to achieve the exact same results they can GET FOR FREE?
     
  8. Angel_Headed_Hipster

    Angel_Headed_Hipster Senior Member

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    Yeah, but the fact is the US has THE BEST intelligence on the planet, if some terrorist group was to plan some attack on the US, most likely they would hear about it and be able to prevent it...

    Peace and Love,
    Dan
     
  9. Brocktoon

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    Im not aware the US has the best intelligence in the world.
    I did not even know it was considered very good?
     
  10. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    Yeah, we know a lot of people hate us. But how many of them actually have the means to attack us the way we were attacked on 9/11?

    What sounds more illogical, a group of Saudis armed with BOXCUTTERS -- of all things -- hijacking not one, but FOUR airplanes, simultaneously, piloted by people that are such experienced pilots that they can crash into three out of four of their intended targets so perfectly, when even professional pilots have stated (on record) that to do this would require YEARS of experience.

    Or

    The US government pulling off a covert operation (which doesn't have to involve any more than 50-100 people at the right place at the right time) using al-Qaeda and CIA operatives and a well thought-out story to present the media.

    ????

    And what about the hijackers that were supposedly on those planes, that have since turned up to still be alive in the Middle East? Were they reincarnated?

    And yes, many in the Islamic world do despise us, FOR GOOD REASON!

    I am not saying that al-Qaeda was not involved in 9/11, but I strongly believe that they were working in tandem (possibly unknowingly) with the CIA.

    Also, keep in mind that the US funded, trained and protected the very same terrorists who were supposedly involved with 9/11. Many of them were trained at the Pensacola Naval Base!

    So how do you explain this?

    Who said they spent decades planning? Besides, apparently they got away with it for now. And how would they have been caught if everyone involved was sworn to secrecy or mind controlled?

    Yes, it's no secret that the US government has used mind control for at least the past fifty years, which they learned from German SS agents (one of them being Josef Mengele) following WW II, several of whom were flown into the US illegally as part of Operation Paperclip, from which the MK Ultra program had emerged.

    There are MANY things the government has been able to keep secret over the years. It's not hard when you have control over the media and almost unlimited power over the people, coupled with the lure of blind patriotism that is practiced within the herd.

    Yes, we have confirmed this already.

    There are also many Americans who would love to see the entire Middle East blown off the face of the earth.

    So why haven't they? Why aren't they? Why don't we see Arabs strapping bombs to themselves and blowing themselves up, like we see in Israel? Surely that would be a lot easier than hijacking four planes and magically crashing them into buildings.

    You underestimate the power and capability of your own government.

    Where did you get that figure from? A covert operation does not require a massive amount of people -- like I stated previously, only a handful at the right places and at the right time.

    Of course!

    But the question is how were the hijackers able to pull off what they did, without any interception or attempt at being shot down? Where was NORAD? Why did all our air defenses fail systematically that morning? Do you think it was just by coincidence? I don't think so.

    And what about the several war game exercises that were taking place on that morning, simulating hijacked aircraft, which in turn complicated fighter response as they didn't know which blips on the radar screen were the simulated hijackings and which ones were the real ones?

    And who was responsible for these war game exercises taking place that morning? None other than Dick Cheney!

    Probably. But if we were really attacked by who they said we were, why were several of the alleged hijackers reportedly partying at strip clubs, consuming alcohol the night prior to the attacks? Why would radical Islamists do this, which is completely against their religion, yet be willing to die for Allah in a suicide mission?

    Billions and billions of dollars of WHOSE money? Certainly not their own. Why don't you pull your head out of your ass and ask yourself how much these people have profited from this event and the wars that have insued in the past 3 years.
     
  11. BlackGuardXIII

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    I have also read that in the summer before the attacks, countries such as India and Pakistan were told by US representatives that the US would be going into Afganistan in October. Also, coincidentally the Taliban had been very stubbornly opposed to a multinational pipeline plan that would have piped natural gas across their nation to supply Pakistan with power. The negotiations had been going on since '97 and billions of dollars worth of NG sales was at stake.
     
  12. Brocktoon

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    Brocktoon officially jumps off the Thread Boat at the exact same time Joseph Mengele's 'Mind Control' techniques were introduced as 'Evidence' of the 9/11 Attacks.

    :$

    ;P
     
  13. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    I never said that is what happened. I am saying that is a possibility. I never stated it as part of "evidence" of the attacks, so don't go putting words into my mouth. That is one of the few things I stated that is pure speculation

    Of course that serves as your excuse to not refute any of the FACTS that I listed. How convenient.
     
  14. Brocktoon

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    Oh dont worry Pressed Rat.. If your goal is to mention 'Irrefuteable' theories - you win across the board!

    Really.. almost ANYTHING you have proposed is 'Irrefuteable' and that IS the problem lol ;)
     
  15. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    It's refuteable that Bush signed the executive order calling for the arrest of anyone within the government who attempted to stop the September 11th attacks from occuring?

    It's refuteable that NORAD stood down, and that all other defense systems failed systematically?

    It's refuteable that there was a series of wargame exercises occuring on 9/11, simulating hijacked aircraft, which inserted false radar blips on the screen, thus delaying fighter response?

    It's refuteable that 8 of the supposed 9/11 hijackers are still alive in the Middle East?

    It's refuteable that the US was warned of an impending attack by foreign officials, yet did nothing.

    It's refuteable that 400 9/11 families are suing Bush for complicity in the attacks.

    It's refuteable that San Francisco Mayor Willie Brown was told not to fly that day?

    It's refuteable that insiders with foreknowledge of the events became engaged in massive and highly profitable short-selling of shares in American Airlines and United Airlines, as well as other stocks readily affected by the disaster?

    THIS CAN ALL BE BACKED UP WITH MAINSTREAM NEWS REPORTS!!
     
  16. Cosmic Butterfly

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    The undeniable TRUTH is that Bush has KILLED thousands upon thousands of people with his decision to go to war with Iraq.


    There is no lie there.
     
  17. Brocktoon

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    Yes but someone simply saying that eight of the Hijackers (identified) are actually still alive is basically an 'unprovable' statement.

    i mean.. you can just say that.

    What can anyone do to refute this?
    Photograph and fingerprint everyone on earth?

    And now your touting the mainstream news.

    This is insanity... when 99.9% of Mainstream reports these guys are dead - you can say its 'Mind Control Disinformation by Cheneyites'

    If some kook says they are still alive somewhere - then its a 'Fact'.

    Prsssed.. your Nuts!
     
  18. Pressed_Rat

    Pressed_Rat Do you even lift, bruh?

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    What was the last thing I said in my last post, numbnuts?

    And yet again, you single out only one thing you find "questionable," to avoid answering the other questions which you have no answer for.

    Either you're in denial, you're working for the government, or you have a gay crush on Bush?
     
  19. Brocktoon

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    It's refuteable that NORAD stood down, and that all other defense systems failed systematically?


    Please explain how you know this?
     
  20. seamonster66

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    This idea seems to be gaining mainstream acceptance, as i just heard a man speaking into a megaphone in Union Square in
    Manhattan about this very topic and he didn't come across as a raving lunatic...in fact, i think most New Yorkers believe there was much more going on than the public knows.

    Seemed like people were being rallied by this man.
     
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