Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

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  1. thedope

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    Here is a confusion. Perception of itself, or perception of perception, is not knowledge. Data is not always perceived but it is always there. Perception and knowing are the communal forces of becoming aware. Your only reality is spirit, or the ghost in the machine. The body a biological machine. It does not endure. Heaven and earth will pass away but my words will last forever,
     
  2. BlackBillBlake

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    semantics.

    sweet dreams.
     
  3. guerillabedlam

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    LOL! We spent a few pages dissecting and analyzing Dawkings talks in the previous thread, why is Sheldrake not fair game? (I realize you are late to the party in regards to this ongoing discussion, that comment was intended as more of a joke)

    I don't think the book was retitled in the US, I'm pretty sure I've seen it. I'd likely want to read 'The God Delusion' first if 'The Science Delusion' acts as a rebuttal. I really enjoyed 'The Blind Watchmaker' from Dawkins so I could probably stand to read another book by him and Sheldrake mentioned Terence Mckenna as well as has some interesting ideas, so I'll likely proceed with this idea.
     
  4. BlackBillBlake

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    Sheldrake and TM were friends. I believe Terrence fed him the mushrooms. The 2 of them along with a mathematician whose name escapes me recorded a series of trialogues which are up there on youtube.
     
  5. thedope

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    Oh man I don't have time to listen to dogmatic exposition. Dogma is bad umkay...
    The process that combines all these diversionary tactics because every one is trying to cash in on theirs is begin with fundamental assumption.
    We are real
    If we are real we have real properties.
    We have subjective experience or we are our only measure. you don't have to wonder if you are right, you are real test it out.
    This becomes an axiomatic expression,a base upon which to build further reasoning.
    That subjective perceptions only limitation to approaching knowledge is the temptation to qualify.

    Dogma is bad umkay...
     
  6. thedope

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    I hope you mean by dreaming the study of meaning. You can sleep well.
     
  7. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Pansychism (from the video I posted): sounds like a new post-2012 counterculture movement to me and would also verify the reality and legitimacy of Magick.

    Go to the 25:19 part of the video
     
  8. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    oh what a shock A FEW MONTHS AGO a book came out that created a stir and was discredited as heresy by modern Scientists. Sounds like a post-2012 revolution of Consciousness and Science to me.
     
  9. Moonglow181

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    righto
     
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    To Mr. Writer: Saying that we can know every snowflake on the planet by studying the process of ice crystallization is kind of like saying we can know every person on the planet by studying the human genome. As Socrates once said, "the more you know, the more you know you don't know".
     
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  11. thedope

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    Thank you for this, a breath of fresh air, if I can breathe what is the point.
     
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  13. thedope

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    no time to backtrack I believe you. No one is questioning the legitimacy of magic.
     
  14. guerillabedlam

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    At the library, picking up "The God Delusion". I can tell by the chapter titles already and as I suspected watching his videos over the past decade, Dawkings has a much more militant atheist leaning in this one compared to "The Blind Watchmaker."
     
  15. thedope

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    We only know what we are, to know myself is to know you intimately. To know the nature of myself is to know nature. Snow flake ness has no permanent characteristic but shares the permanence of being snow flake.
     
  16. BlackBillBlake

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    I mean I'm going to bed. It's 12.51 AM here and I have a busy day tomorrow.

    TC.
     
  17. thedope

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    Sorry I can't relate to the fan club, any particulars other than going to the library and making a selection, the watching and suspecting. It is really out of context for me because I haven't seen any of those things. If you are having a private conversation then sorry for butting in.
     
  18. thedope

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    You want a shock i'll spit in your face. Are you goofing around or are do you have what it takes. Why are you arguing points of divergence? Just asking.
     
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  19. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    What the hell are you talking about man? I have been doubted from the get-go about 2012, Magick, and Kundalini. Why shouldn't I be arguing back? I can't handle anymore of your cryptic talk, man. I don't get it and don't get what you're getting at.
     
  20. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    And what are you talking about? Everybody is denying the existence of Magic on this forum except for like 2 other people.
     
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