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Fuck dude. It doesn't point to "internal alchemy and magick". It points to neurotransmitters. There's nothing magical about having increased endorphins from going on a jog. It is evolution manifest.

 

Kundalini is evolution manifest.

Neurotransmitters are in no way somehow ignored when speaking about Internal Alchemy and Magick except by you, and other Scientists. Deliberately changing your internal environment is a fundamental part of Magick.

As has already been stated, any sort of Spiritual experience, whatever it may be, is OBVIOUSLY going to have a neurobiological representation and data.

 

So you would rather refer to it as magick than neurobiology because it sounds prettier and appeals to your delusion. Understood.

 

Kundalini is a collection of physical and mental symptoms which seem to occur only in people who are well versed in the kundalini phenomenon.

 

Actually I'm just interested in bringing the two together. The internal energy of a practitioner of Magick is one aspect of it. Plain and simple. Obviously, you can look at that in a neurobiological way if you wanted to. Get a Scientist to study somebody practicing a ritual and that's what you would get.

Your argument of calling it Magick instead of what it "really" is, neurobiology, is redundant. Might as well call it neurobiology instead of jogging as well.

 

Yeah, Writer, tell that to all the people who it completely crept up on and they had absolutely no idea what it was. It happens half the time to people who don't have any interest in it whatsoever. What exactly about it do you doubt? Why wouldn't it be a possible phenomena? Just because you're not going through it, means it's not real? You're reeking of more classic Science Dogma.

 

Remember how just a few posts ago you were saying, "What exactly would be considered miraculous that Science isn't open to studying?" ...meanwhile you're dismissing something that you have zero understanding of and that would definitely be considered miraculous.

 

That question I asked wasn't rhetorical. I was literally asking you, what is something that is considered miraculous that science is not studying.

Kundalini does not fall into this category, because it is not miraculous. To say you feel heat in your hands and feet and have some mental perturbations is well within the bounds of common mental illness, or even more mundane psychosomatism.

I also didn't say that I don't believe in kundalini because I haven't experienced it; you put those words in my mouth. I don't believe in kundalini because after doing a lot of research about it, it sounds like BS, and nothing at all. It's people trying to justify their belief in Hindu and pre-Hindu mythology by pointing to some vague symptoms and saying "Must be the goddess Shiva curling up my spine!" There's nothing to study there IMO. How would you even go about ascertaining their claims. At best it is a mask for a new ailment that we haven't a name for yet, one which may be called "the kundalini malaise".

 

So because something sounds like BS and your own beliefs about it have come to their own conclusions, therefore it's not real? It sounds like BS because you're not going through it.

 

It is bullshit because it is bullshit. One does not need to go through the motions of first having infallible faith in unicorns to know that their existence is not real; i.e., bullshit.

 

This forum should be renamed the Science Dogma Café. There's nothing I can do about people who simply dismiss something that they personally are judging and concluding it isn't real while having no actual direct experience with it themselves.

And going back to the Sam Harris video, I think that the internal descriptions are just as important as the external data. Meanwhile Science simply isn't even attempting to study any of it.

 

Because science is well aware that it is bullshit.

 

science is a way of apprehending the world, the only bull shitter here is you.

 

It's "well aware" that it's bullshit specifically because of a stigma and biased viewpoint. Hence the term "Science Dogma"...get busy studying the phenomena, which is ancient and existed long before the Scientific Revolution, before even attempting to say such a thing.

 

Deja Vu....



That feeling I've read this exact same argument 600 posts ago.

 

The argument will be made as many times as is needed. This argument is existing because of the recurring theme of certain people calling something bullshit that they have no experience with.

 

Clearly, your arguments are invalid, and referring to them over and over again expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.

 

My post was not directed at you Cat but all those involved... This is getting very redundant and is going to go nowhere.

 

Note... You are doing the same thing.

 

Yeah science can become a belief to those who regard it that way, on the order of belief.