Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

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  1. thedope

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    It is not the christmas chat but the community awareness that developed through the effort to bring it to for. Also evident is our our essential longing to return to our virgin state, to be able to fashion the world anew to our genuine liking instead of having to tow a line sent down from powers above. Your fear of my condition is not a reliable indicator of the facts. I understand your reaction to be the same as that of dennis mckenna because you have preconcieved notions of the value of christian symbolism. And again i ask you to look at your own interest in this process as your guide. If you are not interested then don't be but don't judge on your incapacity to appreciate what you see. the best course for obtaining new knowledge is to keep your mind open which is what i have expressed to you that i am doing. You don't have to worry about transversing a million steps but only transmit one complete idea and the way to do that is become the thing you trying to communicate. Do not denigrate the power of your mind to call to the light in the mind of another by saying you can't make a difference. I do not have to think of what to say, I just open my mouth and it comes out just like is described by mckenna in the speaking of tongues.I would ask the question what is wrong with christian symbolism? Turns out the tree of life is represented in gathering around the christamas tree or the spirit of life giving affection. It is a subliminal reference to our fundamental estate.

    Nothing petty about what i said unless you find yourself so. Again you keep posting with out the relevant undertanding. Did i hurt your pride or something?
     
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  2. thedope

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    me neither but if you are involved you will transcend the need for it.
     
  3. BlackBillBlake

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    I'll leave you to rant on then with your relevant understanding.
     
  4. thedope

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    I would like to add that is just not christian symbolism in play but all our community symbols including in art as mr. writer provided and in popular song and dance and in technological advances and especially the bit by bit construction of the internet itself. All these symbols from differnt domains are speaking in concert with each other not incompetition with each other. There is also the astrological aspect and the mirraculous aspect and the mayan cosmological aspect and the plant phylae aspect of the chrysanthemum family and their ability as composers. The search for esoteric knowledge involves being able to apprehend the broad symbolic nature of life when conceived as a whole. You find the same array of aspects in every line of serious investigation whether be of star systems or of social systems.
     
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    You could join the conversation in a sensible manner. with the idea of discovering the things we don't know. this is how this information has developed through the weaving together of the different contributions. If you were to decide to stay with genuine interest i would like to think it wouldn't take as long for you to catch on as it did for chinacatsunflower.
     
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    The 144000 figure in christian symbolism is equal to the mayan baktun which is 144000 days. That represents in individual terms 144000 days of individual experience in which either the one or the other has given their highest consideration to that days experience so it is in our memory with precision.
     
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtYpmVcPTJ8
     
  8. MeatyMushroom

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    I'll report back with a drawing in the morning.. very interesting..

    A quick addition for now.. assigning consciousness a purely hypothetical shape..
    Planes of thought exist within a landscape governed, at this point, by laws of hyperbolic geometry. It's expansive in nature, but to resolve it has to meet itself, complete. To assume it will never meet is akin to the assumption that the world was flat and we were prone to falling off the edge if we weren't looking where we were going. This also ties in elliptical geometry because with the addition of time, expansion has to meet itself so it needs to close.
    Practically, this idea is only complete because it's being received by something the universe has already been. You, reading this.

    I'm going to leave that there, and then add this bit on - see if it makes any more sense.

    This is a static image. Assume the shape is complete, for it complete it needs to meet itself.

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    The math is interesting, I've been going back and relearning math cos school was the most seamingly pointless time of utter ridiculousness.. and stumbled on this guy.

    http://youtu.be/EvP8VtyhzXs?list=PL6ACFCC19EA82CA71

    A hardcore math professor restructured the description of the principles of hyperbolic geometry. Instead of relying on tons of equations to find abstract patterns in complex equations, he uses a simpler method that proves itself so elegantly that allows it to support known theories, such as Special Relativity.. that's the only one that's sticking out in my head right now, mentions more in the intro. Obviously, go to his channel if you want the rest of the course.

    This post is a wet dream of waking consciousness..

    Personally, I hereby make the claim that the universe is most definitely alive in some sense. I draw that conclusion simply by the stating the fact that if it requires a living organism in order to be able to perceive itself and the way in which it perpetuates itself is through a process of birthing a new moment from the last, the "mother" has to have been alive or at least something like alive like it is now. And now. And now.
    Novelty/Habit
    Plus, the doodle session I had that I'll scan in tomorrow made a very strong case for it since I watched it pour out with very little control on my part.
    Which is interesting because from my understanding of Timewave Zero, as we approach a supposed "node" in whatever is happening out there, every conceivable thing(the only conceivable thing) condenses. Since every conceivable thing can only be information in varying forms of abstraction, it makes sense that there's to be an influx of knowledge. To be very honest, it does seem like a shot in the dark.. but I have to admit it does seem like a pretty good shot.


    Disclaimer: I'm quite high, I shall review the details in the morning but the taste was legitimate in the sense that I've only recognised that same sense of clarity before through a lysergic description. It's been 6 month's since my last trip, prior to that one a year.

    I need to go to bed, so I shall leave it at this.
     
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    Sam Harris: Can Psychedelics Help You Expand Your…: http://youtu.be/XOET9n8wnmo
     
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  10. Gongshaman

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    So your answer is, you talk to dead people, and two video replys. A vedic scooby-doo cartoon and an old guy that has to be prodded with his own points to prevent him falling asleep
     
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    The answer to what, my conviction or the process that would explain how it possible? As far as talking to dead persons there aren't any. There is no limit to the subjective perceptions ability to apprehend reality save for the temptation to qualify. You cannot communicate with personallities whose existence you actively deny based on the evidence of the body. I don't get the impression at all that the theoretical physicist and sanskrit and liguistic scholar was sleepy headed.he looked to me only to be utterly calm. You might say the same of me if you spoke to me in person.
     
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    i would remind that scooby doo did not appear in either video
     
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    The vedic video on creation is positied in symbols and you must decipher the symbols to understand their meaning. For example did anyone bother to discover the meaning of the sanskrit terms that were posted in it? Solid information is every where you look if in fact you apply yourself to understanding instead of sceptisism.
     
  14. thedope

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    At what point in the video does the recipient character identify himself?
     
  15. thedope

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    It seems some have fallen into sleepy habit. We will give you time to have your coffee.
     
  16. Gongshaman

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    I don't read sanscrit, and as with all ancient languages, translations and there interpretations vary, scholars write lengthy dissertations on the variances. My time on earth it limited, I don't have time to play games to get my information about nature and the universe. I only have time to witness
     
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    You took time to slander why not take the time to learn what it is you are critiqueing?
     
  18. thedope

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    Fact is if you listened to the physicist sanskrit is an exacting scientific langauge and it is not subject to varieties of interpretation. that is why phyicists find it popular.
     
  19. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    A "fixation" happens all the time...and usually to the greatest discoveries and inventions. The inventer of the automobile was also fixated. Every great thing requires a fixation.

    The Occult is only armchair nonsense and hocus pocus until you actually begin to apply it. You guys keep asking me for my intimate details. Well to you I tell you to apply it yourself. You do claim to be Scientists, don't you? Then you should be open to exploring not only the written word of the Occult but the actual practice of it. You're speculating as much as anyone if you don't apply it in a Scientific and practical matter.

    But alas, your dismissal and deeply-rooted prejudice against it will more than likely keep that from happening.
     
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  20. thedope

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    Your statement was fine until you added the proportion of doubt in the ability of others. It is their choices that are theirs.
     
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