Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

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  1. thedope

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    This is what a statement looks like of one who knows above and below

    NOHAS ARK
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    nohas ar
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    Ohas Ar
    know/Oh
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    You are the breath of god
     
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    know as air

    We speak things into existence right and wrong, male and female, each according to their kind
    There was a great flood but it was before men and it was a planet wide extinction
    the entire seed of life was started anew
    With this esoteric spelling
     
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    Noahs ark is the measurements of the life boat Our life boat being how we live in the world, by invocation.

    Right now we work in the world but we don't like it, tell em to fuck off. If you don't speak the truth about your life and mean it then your life has no truthful meaning.
     
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  4. thedope

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    It was the flush of embarrassment that caused me to shut my mouth until I knew what I was talking about. Many people hide from their embarrassment.

    I looked for you and could not find you

    We hid because we saw that we were naked, exposed to our lack of understanding and we were ashamed.

    Fear not it is I
     
  5. guerillabedlam

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    I'm genuinely interested in your response to these particular questions regarding LSD Chinacat...
     
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    I am interested in your response.
     
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    I'm interested in why possums play themselves.
     
  8. thedope

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    Interest is movement toward life. Dead, not interested
     
  9. guerillabedlam

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    It appears I'll get to sit on it...
     
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    The far ranging light of the universe only shits on shit heads. We can be deceived by appearances.
    You are the crown of creation and you got no place to go accept to step out and breath the air of understanding.
    But I recognize your response, maybe thinking yourself unworthy to take your place among the shinning knights,nights of the zodiac. Unsure that your contribution will maybe let some of the air out, a contradiction in terms. I am not singling you out in this statement. I respect the fact that you my be respectful of things you may not have apprehended yet, but you will because it is you will to be secure in life.
    Joy to you the world in this time of far ranging light.
     
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    Would i pay to see you, no. I would share what i have, my attention to life
     
  12. guerillabedlam

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    If we all had answers to our own questions, the whole exercise of sharing our thoughts would be a futile endeavor.

    Im in the festive mood anyways, so I'm giving ChinaCat the initial chance to respond.
     
  13. thedope

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    Our questions are different, perhaps your answer addresses my question. We are after all a solar system casting light in the most remote abodes.
    The thing about sharing thoughts is they are shared not thought about separately but in the same terms. They belong to both the giver and the receiver equally and our festive mood beyond being palpable is proclaimed.
    this exchange is not wasted
    and we are eager for more of what we might have overlooked.
    Calling all cool cats... smile this is cosmic camera.
     
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  14. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    No that is not what he is saying. How can you equate "the scientific method was DEVELOPED by practitioners of Magick" with "They utilized the Scientific Method toward Magick"? What is being said is that the Scientific Method was CREATED by practitioners of Magick.

    Why Science and Magick made such a large split after this fact can be pointed to in both the Alchemical Dream video and the Winter King audio.
     
  15. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Yes, fine! a Spiritual transformation has nothing to do with Science! Exactly! When did I ever act like it was otherwise? The only reason we are in this huge debate of Science is because going back all the way to the beginning of the '2012' thread chimes in with "well you can't prove it with Science, therefore I don't buy it". I was never the one trying to act like any of this has to do with Science, so please stop acting like I was.
     
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    What are you talking about? I didn't understand the exact context of one thing you said here save i know what words mean. You are still talking about points of divergence. you are not participating in this discussion in a constructive, that is to increase knowledge, way except to give me typing exercise. We are taking up the slack, slacker. Try to speak clearly. I am going after your sentence structure instead of debating concepts with you.
    If you respond to the challenge you will have increased in understanding instead of perpetuating tedious exchanges devoid of substantial increase in clarity. It is not possible to address your confusion in your confused way. If you find clarity you will have no problem getting agreement.
     
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  17. thedope

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    Understand that breath is all we have and every breath is essential to the next. If you don't learn with this breath you have no guide as how to apply your next and this is what we call blowing hot air but it is blistering and wasting of essential opportunity. The road not chosen is the road you didn't choose.
     
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    Not true to every extent. You don't transform spiritually, you are spiritual and you improve your ability to apprehend your own intact spirit.buy refining perception so that your accounting and amending doesn't contain miscalculations. We suffer because we apply an inappropriate method to not correctly identified problems. A spiritual awakening has every thing to do with science, the ability to accurately and consistently account.
     
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  19. guerillabedlam

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    I'll go ahead and try and answer the questions...

    I do think that the anthropomorphic term 'Lucy' seems much more innocuous than the term 'Acid', which comes off as grating and though unrelated, has various associations to poisons. These differences likely could play a subtle part in the onset, however once peaking or fully immersed in the LSD trip, I believe the influence of these terms becomes negligible, as an example, in the cases on occassions where one briefly forgets they have even consumed a drug.

    Therefore the consideration for variables, such as set, setting, and dose have a greater influence on the contents of the trip, rather than the slang terminology.


    Similarly, I get the impression of the term Natural Philosophy as perhaps a more interpretive knowledge of the natural world, less focused on providing testable predictions, whereas science seems more rigid and precise. Difficult to discern based on the terms being used in such different time periods.

    So we can't assume the same negligibility as with the LSD example, due to advances in technology and refining methodology, however I think the discrepancies become relatively negligible when you start talking about heliocentric models or matter being composed of smaller physical entities (atomists) and applying logic, reason, and mathematics to describe the observable world around us in both societies. Aside from the aforementioned technology, variables such as the different views in regards to government, religion, and education prompt the bigger disconnect in our respective civilizations, which may make it difficult for some like Chinacat to see from our contemporary notions of science, that it was being utilized (perhaps one could argue crudely) in Ancient Greece.

    When there is only one institution of higher education in the civilization and an inherent view (for the most part) where the realm of the Gods takes precedent over the natural world, it's difficult to relate the hotly contested issues that face science today, even if some of the practices were the same.
     
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  20. thedope

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    There is the familiar term cid/sid, or vitamin a which were popular with me. Mostly cid. [SIZE=14.3999996185303px] Acid does sound acerbic. i was prepped for the psychedelic experience with the admonition don't forget you took a drug and if you are going to do something illegal only do one illegal thing at a time. Both have practical applications like don't drive with a trunk full of drugs in a car that has a broken tail light and to remember you took a drug keeps the drug experience in proportion.[/SIZE]

    Here an impression is an indistinct view. Impressions come from a series of associations. Could you describe the associations that lead you to this indistinct view?
     

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