Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

Yes I'm making such a mockery of myself by clarifying all of my points and constantly repeating what I have been trying to say over and over, and plenty of others are going "that's all hearsay man", and still claiming that Science isn't a bit close-minded in its present form. Got it.

 

Clear as a bell, do you?

 

ring in the virgin birth
Our zodiac
here below

 

No that's not what I'm asking you. I'm asking you if tripping on LSD is different if it's called Acid or Lucy.

Do the semantics have the power to fundamentally alter the observations and experience? Is the heliocentric model different if it's come to be known from Natural Philosophy or the Scientific Method?

 

here's an interesting little article talking about how the Scientific Method stems from Magick. What a shock!

http://www.llewellyn.com/blog/2009/10/magick-the-scientific-method/

According to this and more sources that I can find, the answer would be no, Science isn't distinguishable from Magick. Neither is Astronomy essentially distinguishable from Astrology. Not originally anyway.

And yes, that is what you are asking me. You are asking me if one thing is different if they are given different names. Such as with Astrology and Astronomy. They were originally one and the same thing. Or Magick and Science for that matter.

 

in anything you clique on of ours you will be brighter will be brighter
Be bright will

 

Ok.. let's consider something. Since there's more than one person not getting what you're trying to say, regardless of how many times you repeat yourself, what could possibly be the problem?

 

Please tell me exactly how I'm not being clear so that I can ONCE AGAIN REPEAT MYSELF in order to further clarify?

 

You speak english but you are not clear in your mind
'we heard everything
You heard nothing

 

actually that's you not being clear^...please further elaborate, anybody, and tell me exactly what I'm not being clear on with my points and what I have been trying to say.

 

And how about Writer answering all of the questions that I asked him? How come nobody is addressing that? I'm also waiting for my own clarifications, and am still waiting on what exactly I'm not being clear about with my own argument.

 

You are not listening, You can't be a wizards apprentice without being an apprentice. Right now you haven't even met your league. Score some points in the ball game

 

How about you shut your loose undisciplined rat trap

 

When I get more time maybe tonight Chinacat I will reply in depth to your last few posts. It is Christmas Eve so please have patience and enough courtesy to not imply that I am avoiding your questions. I am damn near salivating with anticipation to address your thoughts. I will echo the sentiment here that you are not being clear; specifically your ideas are not clear.

Did you know that the modern scientific method came to Descartes in a dream? An angel told him how to do it. Is this one of your points? Because it actually doesn't matter whether an angel told descartes in a dream, or a devil told socrates in an opium stupor, or whether it was worked out in a lab. The method works, and we use it.


From your blog post Chinacat:

Finally, after you have proven your theory (the techniques of how magick works for you), I think you have an obligation to do one more thing: Share what you know! Today, with the internet and publishing on demand, that is easier, more effective, and less expensive than ever. The challenge with this is not becoming dogmatic.

 

Can somebody clarify for me why it is me that's being attacked here? And yet people are acting like I'm not being attacked? I've been mocked, called names, told to shut my trap, and yet everyone's foolishly trying to convince me that this is all my own delusion when I simply have done nothing other than start the 2012 thread which has lead to all of these attacks? And then I'm also being patronized and underlyingly mocked to stay on this forum because I'm being a "chicken".

Let me clarify AGAIN what my argument is.

Modern Science (I'm not the only one using that umbrella term so stop attacking me like it's just my own delusional thing) has certain pre-suppositions and worldviews that it doesn't see are dogmatic. The denial of Magick and Kundalini are perfect examples of this. And the denial of the Mayan Calendar's knowledge.

My argument or "hypotheses" if that's a better term is that the new Mayan Cycle and shifting of World Ages marks a changing of seasons of Consciousness, which will include the return of ancient things such as Magick, Kundalini, and Mayan Knowledge to name a few things. A return of Spiritual notions will merge with Scientific studies as our species' survival depends upon it. The growing paradigm will be that the Universe is alive and is more of an aware living organism than the classic 20th Century paradigm that we are alone in an isolated universe. UFO's will also make themselves known. The Scientific discovery of Kundalini will reveal that evolution is actually laid out rather than happening by random chance. A spiritual Global Counterculture will also accompany this shifting of World Ages. The more that Modern Science begins discovering that the Universe is aware, the more sense that the return of Hermetic and Magickal notions will make.

No I'm definitely not sharing my Magickal knowledge, which the Scientific Method derived itself from, so that you guys can attack me and still claim to not be attacking me. You guys are all ridiculous.

 

Evidently we can not clarify for you that which you are not clear about.

 

there is literally nothing not clear about what I just typed and if you say that there is then you clearly cannot read. And you also need to post exactly what I'm not being clear about rather than post the entire paragraph.

 

Your abilities

 

Yeah because that's totally clear and makes a shit ton of sense. I know exactly what you mean.^

I got family to spend time with also. Be back later to see how I'm still not being clear about my arguments.

 

Come back with the esoteric spell and we will discuss if. Enjoy yourseth