Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

Now you know the hoaxers secret and why aleister crowely is someones bitch

 

eashoa restored our vision, caused the blind to see.
Don't be mistaken You ignorant fucks, I am coming for you!


Enjoy the god blessed world motherfuckers

Father of thee my spirit is commended
It is finished

Any questions?

 

red or blue pill to swallow
at the base of the astral body red
At the crown blue

This is how knowledge is acquired

This is science

 

Machine gun
Tearing my body all apart
Machine gun
Tearing my body all apart

Evil man make me kill ya
Evil man make you kill me
Evil man make me kill you
Even though we're only families apart

Well I pick up my axe and fight like a bomber
(you know what I mean)
Hey and your bullets keep knocking me down
Hey I pick up my axe and fight like a bomber now
Yeah but you still blast me down to the ground
The same way you shoot me down baby
You'll be going just the same
Three times the pain
And your own self to blame

Hey machine gun
Oooooooooo
I ain't afraid of your mess no more, babe
I ain't afraid no more
After a while your your cheap talk don't evern cause me pain
So let your bullets fly like rain
'cause I know all the time you're wrong baby
And you'll be goin' just the same

Yeah machine gun
Tearing my family apart
Yeah yeah alright
Tearing my family apart

Don't you shoot him down
He's about to leave here
Don't you shoot him down
He's got to stay here
He ain't going nowhere
He's been shot down to the ground
Oh where he can't survive no no

Yeah that's what we don't wanna hear any more, alright
No bullets
At least here, huh huh
No guns, no bombs
Huh huh

No nothin', just let's all live and live
You know instead of killin'

~Jimi Hendrix

 

Remember I said account for all that is being said. I just spent a whopping amount of time lighting up the boards. I tried to address every single post that was new. The moral of this story is, you don't know shit and haven't seen anything clearly since someone knocked you in the head for making a mistake. We are spending time crying over spilled milk/blood. Leave the dead to bury the dead. Well there are no dead if you have been following premise but you keep making the same mistakes. the mistakes not corrected. To put it in everyday common sense. We all know what is going on but the authorities are hoodwinking. keeping secret from you the truth.

 

You will not hear any secrets connected to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_%28given_name%29

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W1KPfycfCIQ

I'll just leave that there then China.

This was ok while it lasted but I sincerely hope one day you grow up. I'm sure you will. Best of luck.

 

Why do you keep equating me with faith? Just because I choose not to share my private life with you? I suggest that perhaps it's you that grows up. I know exactly where I am and am happy about my path. I will only be evolving forward, not "growing up" as you suggest.

Terence McKenna can put into words precisely all that I seem to fail to put into words. Listen to this if you really want to hear everything that resonates with what I have been talking about...regarding Magick, Alchemy, post-2012, everything. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v-ZQ4xd45ER_w

By the way, I'm a Smith

 

I like Terence High again I will look at it. I equate you with someone who doesn't want to be embarrassed and I find it shameful to myself that you can't realize that you are among compatriot conspirators and that every one has some thing to contribute. The thing you might not be paying attention to is how it irritates you and how it really makes us sad
There is even a salient quote by a jehovahs witness type in this thread. So any questions about the thread? It contains a mountain of what you want to know. It is the cap stone you the builder rejects, which shall become the cornerstone of your foundation, i baptize you in our name wizards apprentice!

 

What the hell is that page?

Try
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN-vMMpja30

 

that was kinda neat i hadn't seen it before

 

I have just as much at stake as you in this conversation chinacat. I have just as much vulnerability to ridicule and having my ideas discredited. We are all sticking our conceptual necks out when we debate our ideas. This is how learning works. This is how brothers and sisters come together to arrive at knowledge; much is at risk, reputation, long held beliefs, worldviews. But without this we are stuck groping in the dark, hanging on to our egos for fear that we might lose who we are in the face of painful truths.

Won't you let go? Won't you stop being afraid of losing what you know and what you are? If it gets lost, that means it was never you to begin with, and it was never a good thing to hold in your heart and mind. It would be a good thing for anyone to lose a bad idea. The fact that you lack the conviction to do this, on the basis of "protecting that which is private", is an entirely flimsy and unconvincing excuse. The whole point of this thread, and the 2012 thread, was to discuss these ideas, and for all of us to stick our necks out and take a risk in explaining things through. Now that attention has swung around to your neck finally, as we finally are beginning to tease apart some of the vagaries of your position, you swiftly withdraw on the premise of some feigned insult or even worse, a FEAR of being insulted.

How will you ever learn and grow as a human being, in all the things beyond this online debate about Magick, if you cannot be brave and comfortable in your own head and shoes and stand up for what you think is true? how will you fight for what is dear, for who you love, if the mere thought of being criticized shackles you to silence and exile?

 

I think that deserves an academy award^

Because this forum isn't important enough for me to share my private life anymore than I already have, that's why. It doesn't really matter at the end of the day whether you guys agree with me or not. I still have my direct experience to fall back on at the end of the day. It matters zero to me whether this is a good excuse to you or not. It's just my style. I have been outspoken enough as it is. I don't see you sharing any of your personal stories with me. So why you are demanding them from me makes no sense. There's nothing anyone will be able to do to get me to discuss my own experiences. Those are for me and me alone. One has to walk their own path into the genres of esoteric study.

 

I'm not sharing any personal stories because none of the points I have made require the communication of personal anecdotes. Everything I have stood for in this thread can be communicated across languages and millenia; it is all physical evidence and observation of how the universe works. It doesn't matter what your culture is, or who you voted for, or what name you give to the god you worship; you can come to the table and perform the same experiments and get the same results. You can peer through the same telescope, no matter what color your eye is, and see what's really in the cosmos.

If the only way you know Magick is real is from your personal experience, and you refuse to share your personal experience, then what was the point of these threads? You entered into a debate with your fingers crossed behind your back? With the secret caveat that once things got a little too real and you had to actually account for your beliefs, you could simply say "Sorry, that's private!" and exit the debate, smugly confident that you are right because you don't have to share? Because its your "style" to be convinced of extraordinary things based on personal experiences which you will not communicate?

I think the only thing esoteric here is you, chinacat. You are the great secret you are keeping. You are 'magick', that's why this is so dangerously personal for you. There is no 'magick' outside you, it's just whatever experiences you've had that you can't explain, therefore it's 'magick', and you will not submit to any scrutiny. That you continue to expound on its realness only speaks to your immaturity and perhaps even your dishonesty as a thinking person.

 

Case closed, then^...since you got me all figured out and shit. Now I would advise you over to the Mr. Writer vs. ChinaCatSunflower02 thread to see the article I posted regarding yet another viewpoint that matches my own regarding the modern scientific community...an article simply entitled "Is Science Broken?"

 

No thanks, I'm well aware of the current events surrounding dishonest individuals who falsify data in order to get published, and zealous journals who don't do enough peer reviewing. This is a problem of people and journals, not of science. It is a problem of certain structures built around the premise of science, not science itself. This would be like criticizing pasta based foods in general because you were served by a rude waiter in an italian restaurant.

I don't need you to give me articles describing aspects of science; I can guarantee you I know more about it than the article and could explain it to you better. I am very involved in my worldview, and so I can discuss any aspect of it that you wish, in the open, including any personal anecdotes if they were applicable. I have done much research and reading into scientific fallacies and pitfalls, and I know much about the philosophical underpinnings of the scientific method.

So instead of giving me an article about science, which is preaching to the choir, why don't you present something about Magick, the thing I DONT know about, the thing which you stand for, the thing which means so much to you that to even dare criticism of your experiences with it causes you to consider leaving this forum for another where the participants won't be as scrutinizing with their intellect.

Don't want to talk about your personal experiences with Magick? Fine. Talk about Magick in general. Tell me something beyond "it's the art and science of changing reality according to will", because that is just a bunch of airy words that don't mean much. Get into the nitty gritty.

 

What is more insidious than our personal difficulties is the fact that we loose on the world our personal difficulties. The reason the esoterically inclined are important to society is the relevant
relief from personal difficulty. The liberated person is free with there care and as such can care meaningfully for those who are heavily burdened. As it stands now those who serve as our authority figures by and large have no personal authority, in the united states they are elected as representatives. So it amounts to blind leading blind.
No one can teach what they don't know and modern scientific method does not teach wellness of being. Though the scientific method can quantify elements of being they can't synthesize them within being unless one is familiar with themselves. So self discovery is vital to preserve integrity at large.

This is the hard argument for personal discovery. The reason we might all find it important. If your reasons are private then you might have a tendency to drop out of the search in the face of temporary satisfaction/dissatisfaction and temporary satisfaction is not a sign of success, Those who endure until they find shall posses unlimited endurance.

 

Posted Today, 01:58 AM

themnax, on 23 Dec 2014 - 02:17 AM, said:

Well the lack of interest shows. I would scalp the itinerants. The bibles books were written for the purpose of encoding and extending esoteric realizations. It is a valuable repository for mankind in this sense only. It is not the unfailing word of god, the living word of god or any word of god. They are the words of men disseminating the highest standard of learning within our evolutionary tree.

AS to the question of being born time and again, being born is not the essential nature of the being of personality. There exist but twelve of us. Personality traits represented by the zodiac. there is another estate in communion with these twelve. That one does not take bodies for communication but does communicate with the embodied.You know him as father sol/soul. eashoa is there with us.. There aren't any random births. All our personalities know each other on a fundamental level. and we are all in cooperation with everything that transpires. This is why it is essential that you learn to remove the barriers you have erected to the perception of love. If your eyes were open and not heavy from the hypnotic entrancement of sensation and brute habit. A miraculous and exciting relationship will emerge that will make all the pettiness of your current concerns apparent. Thank you for the stimulating inquiry.

 

How might we view the production of bodies. They are common currency of our species. What belongs to one belongs to all in this sense. The body is a communication device, a biological machine. We use bodies as a way to enjoy one another in every iteration. To think of past lives is an irrelevant distortion. No one of us dies. We are cooperatively inhabiting the unborn body. The independent personality body fusion happens at the moment the body takes atmospheric gases, the breath coming in, on it's own. If you want to be snarky about it you could say that abortion is a waste of resources at best.

 

If there were something sacred about the body, we couldn't cultivate human tissues outside the body.

Sacred means to spill blood over