Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

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  1. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    what does criticial mass mean
     
  2. thedope

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    When you get to a certain point you cause a chain reaction.
     
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  3. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Yes. Anytime that you're naturally inclined and interested towards masses of people like myself you tend to look at it in a chemical way. For me it has been an Alchemical way. You can't necessarily measure the chain reactions that can take place in a mass of people with the Scientific Method but that doesn't mean that something energetically doesn't happen. Something DOES happen. Your consciousness and intent will always play a role in that.
     
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    So when people like you say

    Yes you can measure.
     
  5. thedope

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    What is science?
     
  6. ChinaCatSunflower02

    ChinaCatSunflower02 Senior Member

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    How can you measure that? What exactly WOULD you measure? If you can measure that with Science then what is stopping anybody from measuring somebody attempting Magick with Science? Oh that's right, dogma and lack of belief in it is what's stopping them.

    What is failed to be understood by most people on this thread is that Magick is only hocus pocus because of the connotations that you connect with it in your head, due to history's job at making that so.

    All that needs to be understood regarding Magick is that all you would essentially be studying is energy mixed with intention and seeing the results that take place. That's it. There's nothing not practical about that.

    If you can actually measure the chain reactions that take place at a rock concert then you can certainly attempt to measure the chain reactions of somebody attempting Magick. Too bad that Science isn't open to that, though.
     
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    Answer the question what is science?
     
  8. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    attempting to learn and understand the Universe is what I would define as Science which is precisely why I feel that the lack of acknowledgement towards Magick is a very a large un-acknowledgement indeed as Magick and Alchemy are both also man's desire to understand himself and the Universe. So it makes Science seem very dogmatic as it's not Magick that is the mainstream thing that's taught in school and dominates our society.
     
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    Shouldn't be hard if you know what you think you know.
     
  10. thedope

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    What is the attempt to know?
     
  11. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Can we also just keep in mind at all times, everybody, that Science does not equal reality as a whole? If something can't be studied by Science, that doesn't take away its legitimacy.

    Can poetry be fit into the Scientific Method? Of course not! Does that somehow take away the legitimacy of poetry? Of course not.

    So I'm defending Magick and other esoteric subjects not only in the sense that it would be innovative and new if Science did try studying it but even if Science remains too dogmatic and close-minded towards that, that still in no way takes away the legitimacy.
     
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    No. not if you don't know what science is.
     
  13. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    You all know what I mean by Science. I already gave that which is a good definition for it when you asked and have also clarified that I mean the Scientific Community the other times.
     
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    Sorry I don't that is an unrecognized assumption. Can you help me please?
    You gave me a definition with terms that required more definition.
    That is not a good definition, that is a hint.
     
  15. Gongshaman

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    This is your brain on poetry


    “Some people say it is impossible to reconcile science and art, but new brain imaging technology means we are now seeing a growing body of evidence about how the brain responds to the experience of art."
     
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    Emotionally charged writing

    the mouths emits the abundance of the heart

    The recognition of spirit, the breath coming out

    What I abundantly speak reflects my will.

    Lately I have been a blabber mouth

    I would like to thank you on behalf of the group and ourselves and I hope we pass the audition.
     
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    You don't go unheard. (or unread, as it were)


    Words are all we have in a way.

    With our internal dialogue we uphold our world.
    With our external dialogue we reflect our intent
     
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  18. thedope

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    So this is what a statement of some one who knows looks like
     
  19. ChinaCatSunflower02

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    Ok then are you are only backing up and helping the claim that you could study Magick and Kundalini if you wanted to with Science.

    If you can bridge the gap between Science and art then there's certainly no reason to not bridge the gap between Science and Spirituality via things such as Kundalini and Magick. Magick is the "art and science of causing change to occur in conformity with will".

    And it still doesn't mean that somehow Science is more real than poetry. The scientific study of poetry in no way substitutes for the experience or the words that come from poetry.
     
  20. thedope

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    I am backing up the facts, not your position. AS far as I'm concerned at this point you don't have a legitimate place to say anything what soever about science to me until you tell me what science means. If you could tell me what it means then all your concerns will be reconciled
     

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