Esoteric, (Hidden,) Knowledge

Something to be said about the unused power of negation. Our power of negation, the ability to reject things, reflection in terms of the properties of matter, is misappropriated by desire in that we try to reject things we don't like. Well the things you don;t like keep coming and so you play a constant battle of deflection instead of actual negation, That is the cursing of the fig tree for reference. Not knowing the function of negation we entertain concepts like non violence. Well violence is a catch all phrase to describe all sorts of energetic confrontation and non violence has no positive existence, so when you say non violence it expresses a wholly self referential version of energetic encounter that has nothing to do with whether violence exists and in what proportion. Seems obscure because this is a mild case of the profound and more pronounced distortions that can occur.

Another example non compliance. If some authority figure tells you you are in non compliance with the authority he represents, he is pulling a racket. We always choose with a guide. As compliance can mean many things in many different situations non compliance means even much less and will be used unjustly as a weapon of fact when it is really just being put upon.

So a profound confusion is created between what is the same and what is different and makes terms less useful in apprehending how we should respond and they in this state, can be corrupted by the corrupt.

This is one element of the confusion of tongues recounted in the tale of the tower of babel.

 

I made the comment about the wind blowing in your face because I said that the wind blowing doesn't have a particular formula to it, to which somebody responded with a general graph of winds.

Like I've said over and over and over...it's not my fault that Science doesn't study Magick. If it's really open to discovery then it will have to start studying spiritual phenomena at some point in the timeline of history, especially when making true discoveries regarding Consciousness. When I say "Science" I'm talking about the Modern Scientific Community and how it's become a sort of dogmatic world-view as was shown in that Rupert Sheldrake video that was posted, and how I have already been saying. I've never been against the birth and existence of Science but feel that it has bloated itself in the modern day.

If you truly feel that all matter has consciousness then how it seems impossible to have an influence on the world via rituals and ceremonies does not make a lot of sense then does it? That's the whole premise of Magick, is that the universe is alive and brimming with an aware consciousness that responds to your intentions, in the same way that the Universe responds when you strike a tree with an axe and the tree falls over. You apply a certain energy to something and a certain result happens. It's practical.

All a ceremony is is a focus of energy towards something. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed and so whenever you release a particular energy you are sending vibrations out into the world. It's only natural that you will attract that to which you vibrate to. This is the foundation of Magick. You could call your "True Will" your highest vibrational frequency. Your most authentic expression into the world.

I can continue to give you magickal explanations but it doesn't seem to suffice. And like I said, it's not my fault that Science doesn't want to study it yet, so it's not my fault that I can't relay it into the Scientific Method when scientists see it has hocus pocus.

 

This thread is not about providing conflicting reports. It is about developing understanding that we share.
Magic doesn't have premises, We have premises concerning the subject of magic. If you want to debate whether magic is worthy or not, go to your is magic worthy thread. Here we assume what we discuss is worthy of discussion. So since you presented it this is my response. What is left for you to decide is, is your participation worth something to you.

 

What is harm
First off you don't know harm because it has no face, it is an internal reflection.
Harm is disproportionate apprehension a disproportionate reflection on all that is going on, an abstraction.

 

I like that.. but I find ideals to be super attractive. Which are more abstractions, but I see ideals as catalysts for growth.


There was more to this but nevermind, it's a beautiful night

 

Come and go as you will always. It is not and ideal but an axiomatic statement on which to build further reasoning.

1. 
   An axiom or postulate is a premise or starting point of reasoning. As classically conceived, an axiom is a premise so evident as to be accepted as true without controversy. The word comes from the Greek axíōma (ἀξίωμα) 'that which is thought worthy or fit' or 'that which commends itself as evident.'
   

 

If it is an abstraction you change it by changing your mind. If it is a tire, you use a tire iron

 

It is fucking tiring to use a tire iron to change an abstraction

beat your head against the wall if you don't get it

 

Because it is hocus pocus.

 

My point has been made regarding the Scientific paradigm^

 

No it is because it doesn't fit his interest. You think to cast a spell on the word hocus pocus and make it disappear now focus.

 

This is segue into the fallacy of belief in the rule of law.

Not one letter of the law will be changed until it is fulfilled

But you will suffer under it until you do.

Open your mind.

 

Hey dope, I think you meant something along these lines to me eh? Just bumped into this clip and thought it apropos.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LRitr8RYsh4

 

Spoken like a true magician, congratulations, we are going to be friends.

 

Well, magicians do rely upon illusion.

 

Fact is your ignorance is an easy mark for me. So your belief relies on illusions. Faith should be reserved for the emergence of fact.

 

Fierce flower you liking the neil vid seems out of character.

 

This^

feel in your heart what is true or not, people.....

 

Well I think I have made my points clear at this point, over and over actually. So if you disagree that's your choice. Have fun being in touch with 'reality'. :alien:

 

Did you know I complimented you?