Early Cannabis Use And Extended Adolescent Behaviors?

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  1. Cannabliss88

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    I know, I know. I was always from another planet. If anything weed has kept me sane and without it I'd probably be an alcoholic. Its just that in retrospect I think I got into smoking too much too soon but its hard to even say for sure.

    I have lots of respect for the wonderful herb. Gets me to sleep each night to this day and helps me keep things in perspective at the end of the day and keeps my emotions from spiraling out of control (most of the time)

    Edit: Not sure if you were responding to me or the thread in general but its important not to blame weed.

    In retrospect I certainly wasn't any less of an alien before I smoked. If anything it just made me more aware of who I am which was bound to happen anyway and even though it caused anxiety its better to see the truth and face the anxiety then live in a world of self-dilusion
     
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  3. Irminsul

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    I agree. When I'm sober, I'm erratic and make no sense but the moment I have a toke everything becomes clearer and then I question my logic when I was sober. :D
     
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  5. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    Mike Judge is a fucking genius. [​IMG]
     
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  7. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    ^^And Idiocracy is a minor masterpiece.

    C/S,
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  9. Gongshaman

    Gongshaman Modus Lascivious

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    yep, and so sadly prophetic!
     
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  11. Gongshaman

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    I think it could be a contributor, but I can't help thinking there's bigger factor that I believe is actually a byproduct of the speed and availability of information. When I first entered the job world as an adult (18) I didn't know that wages had already begun stagnating, I didn't know anything about politics, very little about Vietnam, the military industrial complex, I didn't know the extent of world pollution, the gruesome facts of conquest of America.. etc. In short I was fairly naive, as were most of the people around me obviously, and so in that way avoided, I think, a certain nihilism that seems more typical in recent generations. I mean, a kid can look at the internet and see nothing but futility when it comes to their futures, skyrocketing tuition with no guarantee of placement, low wages even if they do get a position, constant fear of out-sourcing, etc. They've seen the recent recession, where good honest people lost their investments, their homes, due to a banking scam that's yet to be fully accounted for. If you ask me, its a shitty environment for a kid to feel like they can attain launch velocity. Combine that with the escapism of weed and video games, and lets not forget the enabling parents, who likely secretly know full well how depressing the economic environment the kid faces.
     
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  13. natural philosophy

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    if you can't smoke weed and succeed at life, you were a loser to begin with.
     
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  15. Aerianne

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    Poor little crack babies.
     
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  17. soulcompromise

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    I can see Cannabis playing the role of an enabler to some extent because you can always hide behind cannabis culture. But if someone, say a parent or law enforcement, intervenes I don't think that it remains a viable option for the individual using cannabis. I still use cannabis products; namely edibles. But I don't consider my behavior to be adolescent.

    I think there may be a correlation in some cases, but I don't think a causative relationship exists.
     
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  19. Moonglow181

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    What about social media keeping many from achieving what they could be achieving?
    How many people staring at their screens are actually studying something that is beneficial to their lives and careers?
    I know when I play around on this forum all day sometimes, i am not accomplishing what i should be......
    I think social media is an addiction for many as well as the cannibis.
     
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  21. natural philosophy

    natural philosophy bitchass sexual chocolate

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    obviously crack babies are exempt. nobody wants to hire a baby. They should probably be crack teenagers before they start working for a living.
     
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  23. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    I actually read about this in a study years ago that stated in our Information Age we are getting 34GB of information a day. The study also concluded that a side effect of this information glut especially in young children and teenagers is stunted activity in the prefrontal lobe, the part that is in charge of regulating our emotions and empathy. They have concluded that some of that may be irreversible. Add to that the video games that excite the fight or flight response taking up the slack.

    Now lets add weed to the equation. You have stunted emotional maturity, combined with increased adrenaline levels and add the dopamine and Seratonin increase from pot. Sounds like a recipe for disaster to me.

    C/S,
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  25. drumminmama

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    Rev, the talk is Friday in SF.

    4th Annual Entheo-Health and Wellness Forum
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    Friday, December 4, 2015
    5:30 PM to 9:00 PM
    CIIS Main Building, Namaste Hall
    1453 Mission St., San Francisco, CA, 94103 , San Francisco, CA (map)

    Join us for a fascinating evening as we course the neural networks of psychedelic pharmacology, review the latest research in clinical trials, and explore the therapeutic potential of working with entheogens!

    We are delighted to host this special evening for the 4th annual gathering of the Entheo-Health and Wellness Forum. We hope to see you there!



    5:30pm: Doors Open

    5:45pm: Welcome hosted by Dr. Natalie

    6:00-6:40pm:

    Healing People, Healing Policies: Political Implications of Psychedelic Research

    by Natalie Ginsberg

    Over the past 30 years, MAPS has conducted and supported psychedelic research in a variety of areas, ranging from PTSD to cluster headaches to social anxiety in adults with autism. I will provide an overview of the promising results of MAPS’ recent psychedelic-assisted therapy research, and discuss how psychedelic therapy’s successes challenge our current mental health paradigm, as well as the war on drugs. The prevailing mental health paradigm focuses on suppressing symptoms, but psychedelic therapy helps such a wide assortment of ailments by instead addressing the root cause of the individual's struggle. How can we apply these powerful lessons to health policy, and policy in general?

    Natalie earned her Master’s in Social Work from Columbia University in 2014, and her Bachelor's in History from Yale University in 2011. At Columbia, Natalie served as a Policy Fellow at the Drug Policy Alliance, where she helped legalize medical marijuana in her home state of New York, and worked to end New York’s racist marijuana arrests. Natalie has also worked as a court-mandated therapist for individuals arrested for prostitution and drug-related offenses, and as a middle school guidance counselor in the Bronx. Natalie’s clinical work with trauma survivors inspired her interest in psychedelic-assisted therapy, which she believes can ease a wide variety of both mental and physical ailments by addressing the root cause of individuals’ difficulties, rather than their symptoms. Through her work at MAPS, Natalie advocates for unbiased research to help undermine both the war on drugs and the current mental health paradigm.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/natalie-ginsberg/what-psychedelics-research-mental-health_b_4988635.html


    6:45pm-7:25pm:

    Relationships in Neural Plasticity and Psychedelic Pharmacology


    by Andrew Kornfeld

    The human brain is arguably one of the most mysterious, complex, and foundational structures in the known universe. Its physical and chemical states are somehow deeply connected with the multi-faceted spectrum of the human psyche. While modern neuroscience has established that the brain’s properties are susceptible to significant change over time, in just the last half decade, there is emerging evidence that one pharmacological class of compounds has a more profound and unique influence on these properties than possibly any other: psychedelics.


    Andrew is a graduate of the University of California at Santa Cruz, where he earned degrees in both Neuroscience and Psychology. At UCSC, he founded the Brain, Mind and Consciousness (BMC) Society, whose mission is to explore human cognition, behavior and experience through student-led and -directed education. Under his leadership, the BMC has attracted thousands of students and remains a vital force on the Santa Cruz campus, hosting an annual conference and one hundred person undergraduate class. Andrew received the Award for Special Achievement from the Department of Psychology and the Dean’s Award in Undergraduate Education. Currently, Andrew is the founder and CEO of Practitioner Plus, LLC, a consulting company serving health professionals in the Bay Area. Andrew plans to attend a medical or doctoral program, “one of these days, when [he] stops having such a good time with his life.”


    Publications:

    Kornfeld, A., & Fadiman, J. (2013). Psychedelic Induced Experiences. In Wiley-Blackwell Handbook of Transpersonal Psychology.

    Kornfeld, A. (2013). Maladaptive and Adaptive Neuroplasticity in Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) as Respective outcomes of Traumatic Experience(s) and 3,4-Methylenedioxy-N-Methylamphetamine (MDMA) – Assisted Psychotherapy. UC Santa Cruz Undergraduate Thesis.

    Kornfeld, A., Kornfeld, H., & Eberhardt, C. (2014). New and Emerging Drugs of Abuse. Marin Medicine.

    7:25-7:45pm: Break

    7:45-8:25pm:


    The Ghost in the Machine? Examining Change Mechanisms in Psychedelic Assisted Psychotherapy


    by Andrew Penn

    Recent clinical studies into the use of psychedelics for the treatment of conditions such as PTSD, depression, substance dependencies, and anxiety at the end of life are beginning to confirm something that native cultures have known for - that these powerful compounds have the potential to heal. Traditionally, the psychedelic healing process has historically been described as a kind of hero's journey, and it is through this process that these changes take place. Contemporary neuroscience seeks to understand mechanisms of action of drugs and the changes that take place in the brain.


    This brief session will pose the question: "Is the 'trip' essential to arrive at the destination of healing? Does one have to experience the change of consciousness created by a psychedelic to experience the clinical benefit? What if the improvement conferred by psychedelics could be created without the profound changes of consciousness? What implications would this have?"


    I have worked in mental health for over 20 years and trained at UC San Francisco. I am a Psychiatric Nurse Practitioner with Kaiser Permanente in Redwood City and work in outpatient psychiatry. I am an assistant clinical professor at UCSF, School of Nursing. I am also on the steering committee for the US Psychiatry and Mental Health Congress, a large continuing medical education conference, where I have presented on the risks and benefits of cannabis and on psychedelic assisted psychotherapy. I have been going to Burning Man since 1998, and for the last 2 years, have been honored to work with the Zendo Project on psychedelic harm reduction.


    Here's a recent blog series on psychedelics: http://www.psychcongress.com/blog/92082


    My Kaiser page: https://mydoctor.kaiserpermanente.org/ncal/provider/andrewpenn


    and a piece I wrote for the MAPS journal a few years ago: https://www.maps.org/news-letters/v23n1/v23n1_p4-5.pdf

    8:30-9:00pm: Speaker Panel
     
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  27. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    Dr. Tim would be proud.

    Can't wait to hear what you learn.
     
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  29. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Sounds interesting. What is the admission? I also get off work at 8am so I might not be up for it but I'll see.

    C/S,
    Rev J
     
    Reverand JC, Dec 3, 2015
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  31. drumminmama

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    I don't recall an admission posted. Other events, same group, same site have been in the $10 range.
    I can't make this one, sadly.
     
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  33. Vanilla Gorilla

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    Are you for real?
     
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  35. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Maybe it's different where you live.
     
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  37. Reverand JC

    Reverand JC Willy Fuckin' Wonka

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    Unfortunately neither could I.

    C/S,
    Rev J
     
    Reverand JC, Dec 4, 2015
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  39. drumminmama

    drumminmama Super Moderator Super Moderator

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    It's a meetup and Facebook based notification. Let me know if you want their info.
     
    drumminmama, Dec 6, 2015
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