Does God Exist?

ChinaCat you have incredibly selective blinders on if you are going to attack natural selection but point to this article as proof of whatever it was your point was.


Now don't conflate this with me saying that there may not be anything substantial in this theory of the universe being a 'superfluid' but even without extrapolating how that is tied to a cymatics or dna being crystals and what not, the theory rests upon math primarily right now and it seems the researchers are suggesting the evidence would reside in dark matter/energy.

 

If DNA can teleport itself via the Quantum fluid of the Universe then the idea of Natural Selection doesn't make much sense anymore. For all we know, we could have received DNA from a higher intelligence in another part of the Cosmos. Seems much more likely if DNA can literally teleport throughout the Universe.

 

I agree with that statement. It is obvious that multiple fields in science would be upturned. That, to me, is exhilarating. If it turns out to be true, I would be very tempted to go back to school and become a chemist and take part in this new field of research.

Why would it?

 

Consciousness isn't somehow not linked to DNA, that's why.

 

If it's as straightforward as you suggest and about to be proven, forensics is in trouble as well.

 

I agree, but to me bad stuff is part of reality and evil is the abstract concept people project onto it. Although bad stuff is part of reality, the 'fact' that it's bad can still be subjective of course. Sometimes what's bad for one group of people or person (or animals for that matter) can be good for another.

 

What's the link?

 

Experience?


*Not that I agree with the rest of what China's saying... not literally anyway.

 

How is "experience?" an answer to that question?

 

Nephila is a golden orb weaver

NEPHILIM ARE GIANTS AMONG MEN

Reality is homogenous throughout.

good and evil are relativistic perspectives

 

Well, DNA = blueprint to our biology, thus enabling the experience of consciousness, whether or not consciousness exists with or without the body-mind.

 

This. Pretty obvious you don't need a link for that knowledge and understanding.

 

We had a fucking ton of em in the garden

There were only a few this year though.. not sure if it's the seasonal changes or what or if they don't like me cos I stole their name. Teehee, oh well

 

awareness is multidimensional. simple organisms go by feel in a linear fashion or on a two dimensional plane. Add light sensitive molecules and awareness takes on greater dimensionality. /then come the added dimensions here and there and time.

 

Nephila they are sure you inherited their cause.

 

Despite the fact that this post was liked by both Chinacat AND asmo, which must mean its SUPER legit, I'm going to have to kindly state that you are pretending to know things you don't know.

If the link between DNA and consciousness is that DNA is the blueprint for biology, and from biology arises consciousness, then it does seem to greatly matter whether or not consciousness exists with or without the body-mind; that is to say, your position would have to be that consciousness MUST have the body, since that is the link between DNA and consciousness.

If consciousness exists without the body, then there is no link between the body and consciousness, and therefore no link between DNA and consciousness.

Humor me; provide me with a link, so that we can be assured that you are not just pretending to know things you don't know. Should be easy, since it's so obvious.

 

First off, your position would be that Consciousness must have the body and mind to exist, so in that sense, it makes even more sense that Consciousness can be nonlocal if DNA can be nonlocal. You yourself are stating that the body is what's needed for this connection to be possible.

If Consciousness doesn't need the body to exist, then that doesn't sever the connection between DNA and Consciousness either, and could perhaps make it more accessible for Consciousness to interact with nonlocal parts of the Universe, since Consciousness doesn't even need the body, but the body would be its conduit or vehicle for expression, and its means of interacting with itself.

 

In other words, Consciousness existing through the body is simply what makes it possible for the DNA-Consciousness connection. DNA may just exist in a Quantum field of sorts until it has the body to manifest itself through, and the same may be with Consciousness. Consciousness may be non-local or Universal and non-personal, but still needs the body to express itself through. And the body needs DNA obviously.

In the same way that Space exists with or without objects, perhaps it's the same with Consciousness and DNA. They may just exist out there, permeating the Cosmos.

But to say that DNA isn't linked to Consciousness if Consciousness exists independent of the body is like saying that Space isn't linked to Matter since Space exists independent of Matter...when they both actually rely on each other even though empty space can be there without Matter.

And besides, we already know that you are sure of yourself that Consciousness needs the body in order for Consciousness to exist, which is only defending the argument that DNA is linked to Consciousness.

And if DNA exists independent of the body in a Quantum field, it still is connected to Consciousness because the human needs both to exist. They are linked because they all need each other for our cognized experience.

The Sun also exists independent from planet Earth. Therefore, the Earth isn't linked to the Sun?

 

I think this is what Wilcock was getting at regarding the Universe being a geometric jewel or crystal...here's the unfolding post 2012-Science:

http://www.wired.com/2013/12/amplituhedron-jewel-quantum-physics/


From the article "Beyond making calculations easier or possibly leading the way to quantum gravity, the discovery of the amplituhedron could cause an even more profound shift, Arkani-Hamed said. That is, giving up space and time as fundamental constituents of nature and figuring out how the Big Bang and cosmological evolution of the universe arose out of pure geometry."

PHYSICISTS REPORTED THIS week the discovery of a jewel-like geometric object that dramatically simplifies calculations of particle interactions and challenges the notion that space and time are fundamental components of reality.

Now go to the 19 minute part of that "amateur" Wilcock and see how he says the EXACT SAME THING that these Scientists are saying and also what Writer and guerillabedlam have scoffed at me for my 'pseudo-nonsense'


This all sounds extremely similar to Mckenna's Transcendental Object at the end of Time. Not to mention the fact that Quantum Scientists have shown how on a Quantum level the future influences the past (I can post article if needed)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqAaBetmvxc