Does God Exist?

I watched a movie last night. That doesn't mean that I didn't watch a movie last night. The movie isn't somehow not real just because it wasn't me who died in the movie.

 

Get 10 minutes into this and what will be shown is how a Scientist literally showed your exact doubts regarding vibration and the body, and DNA, and the structure of the Universe. Please watch it and see how you are incorrect once again.

What will be shown is how sand in water when vibrated to different pitches turns naturally into a Mandala. Also will be shown how sand in water when heated for 18 hours literally creates DNA out of thin air. A Scientist did this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etnj8G1rOFw

And Natural Selection isn't any more of a proven fact than that the Earth is the center of the Universe. It simply is nothing more than a theory that reflects modern humans' current understanding of the Universe.

The Drake theory also suggests out of its equation that life can't exist anywhere else in the Universe. It's not a proven fact, but a fallacy of an equation and a terrible conclusion.

Are animals and beings completely without intellgence then? You are suggesting that evolution with intelligence is not possible, and meanwhile, all of the creatures on this planet contain some sort of intelligence, not to mention the ecosystems that they thrive in.

"The forces of Natural Selection"...so this is your latest definition of God then? Or, maybe this is the Tao, which we have already went over can't be proven or disproven, and is reliant upon each person's experience of it and nothing more.

 

It's possible for there to be such a thing as Good and Evil, without there being a God, so this argument doesn't work.

Your continuous failure to understand this simple analogy astounds me. Did I say "I had a dream last night, therefore I didn't have a dream last night"? No. If you watched a movie yesterday, then of course you watched a movie yesterday. No argument there, I'm not sure what you think you're saying. What wasn't REAL about the movie were the contents as they pertain to you; if you watched Jurassic Park last night, then IT IS NOT THE CASE that you were chased by genetically engineered dinosaurs through a Costa Rican amusement park over the course of several days.

If this really happened, please link me to the New York Times front page article about how DNA has been synthesized by heating water for 18 hours. This obviously overturns decades of genetics research, and hundreds of years of biological science. It also completely changes the face of medicine going forward. Please link me to a single mainstream press article or scientific article confirming this. This part might blow you away: I will believe this fact 100% if you do this. Amazing right? It's almost like I value evidence and reason.

You are so epistemically confused that you yourself don't even know if you're coming or going. Natural selection is proven every year by the flu vaccine alone. Please read a book.

Here I continue to be more confused; the Drake Equation is famous precisely for how MUCH extra-terrestrial life it predicts in the cosmos.

Yes, the creatures upon which evolution acts are intelligent; but that is not what you have been arguing. You have been arguing that evolution is guided by intelligence; a proposition for which there is no evidence. You are essentially making the watchman argument; "Look at this complicated thing, evolution. So dang complicated. It obviously must have been DESIGNED by someone, since it's not like, a rock or something. Therefore, someone or something exists which designed evolution and has been running it ever since!"

Here I begin to be more earnestly concerned for your well being, and wonder if you are just in a bad frame of mind or if your cognitive abilities naturally wax and wane to this degree . . .

This is not my "latest definition of god". Natural Selection is a natural process by which environmental factors produce selective pressures on more adaptive genotypes and phenotypes. Do you see the word "God" in there anywhere?

Still with the Tao. You are right that the Tao can't be proven or disproven, and that's the point; you're taking it wayyyy too seriously, like all these other topics you're confused about.

 

"It's possible for there to be such a thing as Good and Evil, without there being a God, so this argument doesn't work."

Only if there is no reason for anything.

 

Wondering what possible Good and Evil exists? HArd to make a solid argument on probablility

 

Did you actually take the time to watch the link? A scientist literally did this. They show the headlines in the article. It's a post-2012 discovery.

Not all news is going to make it onto the mainstream headlines. Hilarious how you think it's otherwise. What's amazing is that you think everything in mainstream news and media equals what the truth actually is.

I'm not going to even get into the vaccine issue with you. Vaccines also make people get Downs Syndrome. Not a worthy argument on your behalf whatsoever.

3.15 races in our Galaxy is not a good conclusion. It's basically saying there are very small chances of there being life in our Galaxy.

It doesn't have to be designed by SOMEONE. Intelligence doesn't have to take the form of a "thing". Our ecosystem is naturally intelligent, yet you can't say where it is precisely, but the intelligence is still guiding it.

 

What you fail to understand is that just because I didn't get eaten by dinosaurs doesn't somehow make my experience of the movie not real. Just as a dream, and the Tao, and God, etc.

 

the only news that makes it into your headlines is the news you are interested in

 

It's fascinating to me that thing such as a brain aneurysm which seems like should be such a traumatic experience, some like yourself find them as evidence of the God. I mentioned in another recent thread that I think near death experiences and heavy psychedelic experiences such as DMt sound quite similar. There may be some variations though and much like psychedelics, I am sure every NDE is unique but your experience reminded me of a Salvia Divinorum trip I read. I was going to try and pull it up but I couldn't find that particular report, so I found this one instead which seems to have some common themes as well.

 

Reality doesn't depend on me or you.

 

Go to the 19 minute mark if you want to see the DNA part.

 

Apologize...it's the 30 minute mark that he really gets into it.

This is right around the 2012 turning point that this study happened.

You take two Hermetically Sealed (a term that has Magickal origins) tubes of water

One tube has trace amount of DNA in it, one doesn't

Wrap a coil and electrify both tubes with 7-Hz of Electricity for 18 hours

18 hours later, the tube without DNA at the beginning, now has DNA

Conclusion is that DNA is a Quantum Field which permeates the universe, and doesn't need other life to exist first. It exists independently.

At the 19 minute mark he shows a study by Scientists suggesting that the Universe is a superfluid, something that was suggested in the Law of One series in the early 1980s without Science.

 

Of course He does.

 

Chinacat, link me to something other than an amateur powerpoint on a youtube video. I want the news links; they should read "DNA found to be field permeating universe" or something along those lines. Should be easy since that's what you're saying a scientist discovered, and his results are apparently published and correct. Please, do it for me, because my google is broken. Just the first 5 or so credible sources would suffice. Same goes for the other stuff, about the universe being a giant crystal and whatever other claims you are making.

We are back to . . .

are you ready . . .

show me the money!

While you spin yourself into an apoplectic fit over concepts you can scarcely pronounce I'm going to focus on more fruitful topics here:

Consider this. Imagine that tomorrow, you became completely convinced that there is no god; maybe there was even some kind of proof found for this. Unquestionable.

Would you then engage in rape? Murder? Would you feel no qualm about doing these actions?

I'm going to focus on this conversation with you because it's actually a very interesting philosophical problem.

 

40 minutes he goes on to explore how this is the basics of Extraterrestrial Physics, and compares it to our pale Darwinian model of evolution.

 

Pictures are shown on the video. Watch the video.

Also, i highly doubt that your google doesn't work.

 

I sat through the guy rambling about aliens and certain people being able to shrink down to the size of a few inches to see what you were talking about but alas you gave me the wrong time.

Also, contrary to what the guy said, Schrödinger didn't get a Nobel prize from the cat thought experimnt, he got it from quantum state equations.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2612949/Are-living-underwater-Researchers-believe-universe-liquid-superfluid.html

The superfluid link

Go to the 30 minute mark for the direct information on the DNA.

 

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2011-01/can-our-dna-electromagnetically-teleport-itself-one-researcher-thinks-so

https://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20927952.900-scorn-over-claim-of-teleported-dna/


DNA links

 

Sounds super legit

Another issue here is that even if chinacat is correct in just one or two of his many assertions, he will then take his correctness about these to mean that therefore all his other assertions are correct.

Like if it's discovered that actually yes, DNA does generate an EM signal that allows for it to move through matter, china will say AHA SEE, 2012 ASTROLOGY IS TRUEEEEE lol. it's really hard to even hope that he's a little right because his whole method of coming to knowledge is guaranteed to generate so many falsehoods.

 

If DNA can teleport itself then that would absolutely shake the foundations of Science. The articles even say that.

If DNA can teleport itself then why would Consciousness not be able to also link itself to nonlocal areas?

Another issue here is that no matter how correct I'll ever get, Writer will still shrug it off with 20th century skepticism.