Does God Exist?

Discussion in 'Philosophy and Religion' started by Naiwen, Feb 24, 2014.

  1. Moonglow181

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    um...is someone going to court? Better have all of the facts then from day one then.....or else everything is just heresay.....speculations and favoritisms..
     
  2. Moonglow181

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    I consider animal kingdom ripping another animal apart as very primitive for instance.
     
  3. Fairlight

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    Didn't Henri Bergson write about his theory of spontaneous evolution? I've never really studied him though,just gleaned passing references.I do know that he wrote extensively on the the subjective relative fastness and slowness of the passing of time,as experienced by different people in different states of being.
     
  4. Moonglow181

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    I ascribe to that theory, Faery, more than a master mind behind it all....
     
  5. Fairlight

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    Would time exist for a putative God.How would it be to experience eternity.I will take these paradoxes to my grave.
     
  6. Moonglow181

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    Ihave seenpeople master mind all kinds of shit, though, and they did not bank on everyone not being sucker punched, though.
     
  7. guerillabedlam

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    I'd suggest No, time would not exist for an eternal Deity but then I think it would be outside space as well.. which would lead me to the notion there is no moral preroggative or even relatable intelligence as we understand it, because all these qualities arise within a relative spatial framework.
     
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  8. Fairlight

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    Yes,I kind if agree.Maybe if there is God she has no mind,just sensation,energy and force.Maybe he experiences infinite pleasure,lightness of being and no concern.The whole universe,balanced on the back of an elephant,or perceived in a grain of sand.Forgive me my fantasies.
     
  9. Moonglow181

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    spontaneous combustion.....:D
     
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  10. Moonglow181

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    when I was small, i heard about people spontaeously combusting....for no reason at all that is explained.
     
  11. thedope

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    Are you vegetarian?
     
  12. Moonglow181

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    mostly

    and your point is?

    I would never kill though....
     
  13. thedope

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    Not calling him an alien saying seems alien to him, seems alien to common respect.
     
  14. Moonglow181

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    Maybe I am the alien....;)
     
  15. thedope

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    We see a little family of ducks and ducklings and we think oh how nice then we see a fox kill a duckling and we think how horrible then we see a foxes den and mom returning from the hunt and out pours a mob of puppies and we think how wonderful. Is it primitive or are we grandiose?
     
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  16. Moonglow181

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    nature is primitive, and it is only man who introduced morals into it all......
    I hate listening to the coyotes at night here sounding like they are having a loud party killing some deer or something, but that is how it is.....It is my sadness about it that is my sadness alone.
     
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    Certainly it is yours to keep and I wouldn't dare wrest from you what you prefer to keep.

    So, and this is back at the god subject, what you say you believe doesn't matter. What you are convinced of is what you invest yourself in. When you say you believe in god, what does it matter? What kind of investment does that entail other than a personal reverie. What you do is go out and find food. Follow the money to get at who is really running the show in your life.
     
  18. Moonglow181

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    I cannot say i ever followed the money.....
     
  19. guerillabedlam

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    There are likely relative types of morality in the animal kingdom. I'm thinking most social mammals, at least, have some sort of moral fabric involved within their interactions.

    I point to the fact that animals such as cats and dogs can be trained in some respects to know 'right' from 'wrong'.
     
  20. Moonglow181

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    of course......elephants mourn their losses and dead longer than we do sometimes.....
    dolphins have been known to help humans in trouble.....etc....

    domesticated cats and dogs are much different than wild ones.....
     

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