Does God Exist?

I'm with the atheists as always. :-D

God exists, but not for me. Most god-heads insist it must, not understanding it's a language thing. lol

 

You have to know life, relaxxx.

You asked, "So where was "your God" for countless millions of soldiers?"

What makes you think those men weren't given EXACTLY what they wanted (war)?

Acknowledge the simple truth: *some* people DO love war. For some people, fighting is a sense of pride. btw, not all wars are fought with guns and bombs and other weapons. People (some of them) fight and war because they love it.

Do you feel bad for those soldiers? Are you sympathetic to them, as if they were victims? And is it that you want to blame somebody (the perpetrator, the offender, the bad guy) and you want that bad guy to be God?

Listen to this one and ask yourself: were the sort of men depicted in this song lovers of God?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ci7lssNMRI"]Gary Numan - Down In The Park - YouTube

Can you think of any songs that depict men who TRULY love God? Not quite a Gary Newman tune, right?

 

^ Case in point ;-D lol ^

If god's truly 'as you like it', let it suffice you my good goddlingtons! :-D

 

God is probably hiding out somewhere in the constellation of Andromeda mainlining heroin.

 

"Let them have war"
LOL
Now that's what you call a good God.

 

If men want war they will wage war. What would God have to say or do to make Him appear better in your eyes, relaxxx? Intervene? Indulging in the fallacy of war seems a choice we have. It may be stupid and disastrous but it seems the ultimate freedom. Even if we do it in the name of God it is WE who do it. Should God intervene because the excuse that is used involves a deity? Yes, you can regard this as a hypothetical question (but not a rethorical one)

 

Have people not been fighting to legalize marijuana? Is the war on drugs not a war? Is it a war people are VERY willing to fight? Do some of them love it? Of course they do.

How do people feel when they win their fights and their wars? hahahaha

Anyhow, you perverted the message I communicated. Sigh..

My use of the word perverted: a perversion is a version of truth .. a foul version.

Thanks, Bill Clinton! I love that guy. haha.

 

No, that is not a war in the sense it was talked about in this thread. Just because it is called the war on drugs doesn't make it the same kind of fighting...

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NOmzQW8jMtg"]The JB - Back 2 Life (The Dedication) - YouTube

Breaks 2:23 ;-D

 

How do you separate yourself from existence? Are you sure reality is cleaved in such a way between the haves and the have not's or between angels and snots?

So god is a word. I understand that. Everyone has an invocation to their good.

The English word god is derived from the Proto-Germanic ǥudan. The Proto-Indo-European form ǵhu-tó-m was based on the root ǵhau(ə)-, which meant either "to call" or "to invoke". The root of a word is a vibratory sensation. On no account does god exist separate from ones own invocation, a thing you cherish, and everyone has one or many.

You may have guessed that our indelible invocation is love or as you would have it, the desire for more. I know it looks like a desire for more unless you are satisfied in being in which case your only desire is to give it away knowing you have it and knowing it's worth, that giving and receiving and having and being are all the same truth.

 

Considering that existence itself offers no validation in relation to the supernatural, including the deific kind, it stands to reason that those who believe in that which cannot be proven to exist are subverting reality for their own ill logic.

 

Question is does his supply come from Afghanistan?

 

I can imagine that for a non believer it seems like they are 'subverting reality' but by proclaiming that every theist does so by believing in a deity it seems to me the one who says that is subverting (or maybe better said: distorting) reality themselves. Since not every theist's spiritual beliefs conflicts with reality at all.

 

I fail to view this as anything except as a false statement, considering that one must deny logic and reason, albeit an important form of reality, in order to believe in the existence of something over the facts that there is nothing to suggest it exists.

 

I see many theists embracing logic and reason. If you really do not see any of them maybe you are suffering from some kind of abstract tunnel vision?

 

I was going to suggest in my post that it does,but couldn't be bothered.

 

If they truly embraced reason and logic, they would not be theistic. How easy it can sometimes be to forget the all-too-logical statement made by an albeit fictional character.

If religious people could be reasoned with, there would be no religious people. - Dr. House

 

I make no claim for deity or the supernatural. What is super about god is our superfluous devotion to our own perceived good. Anyway here you are talking about peoples measure of devotion, not about god or the impulse toward devotion.

 

That sounds witty but it does not make it so. I saw you talking about bigotry today in that gay thread. Perhaps there is some kind of atheist bigotry from your side too? Why else dismiss every person who happens to believe in a higher power as nonsensical or unreasonable. It's n ot like they can't embrace science and logic and reason to the same extent as you. I understand you can't do both. But that doesn't mean theistic people can't either

 

I am quite the militant anti-theist, which is not to be confused with the average atheist, and as such I have no qualms in stating that I have a major problem, call it hate, for a theistic society that does more harm for society than good.

As a theological student, I am quite aware of precisely how much damage humanity has done in the name of religion, continues to do in the name of religion, and any healthy society would see just how damaging religion has been and will continue to be so long as people prefer to remain blind to the problems.

In no way am I stating that all problems are expected to disappear with the eradication of illogical and unnecessary religious beliefs, but I can state with certainty that a great deal of the world's many problems would no longer be a subject of worry.