Do you think people are born gay?

Discussion in 'Lesbian, Gay, Bi, Trans, etc.' started by TheSamantha, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    When we say it's a choice, we're not saying it's a "sat down a decided" choice. It's more like "I've always had a bad temper" choice. You can still change it.
     
  2. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    LOL so, can you change being strait? Your that susceptible to being gay? Queer...
     
  3. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Also, you've avoided answering my question, which pretty much proves my point.

    Straight people hilarious.
     
  4. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Whether you're born gay or not, and gayness being a choice or not, are totally irrelevant from each other.

    Could it be possible, that nurturing factors in early child development can have some pull and sway in determining an individual's sexuality? I certainly think so.

    Even if someone is born gay. More often than not, sometimes they know it right away, and other times it takes some extensive soul searching.
     
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  5. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    Here is what straight people seem incapable of understanding: being gay isn't a choice. Being straight is. I chose a life of acceptance. I chose to be the status quo. I chose a father who loved me unconditionally. I chose to have all the rights and privileges any other American would have.

    But damn it, my biology disagreed with me. Like most gay people, I chose to be straight.

    There's a real mind bender for you...
     
  6. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    I wouldn't laugh being that you don't have any scientific evidence to support your view.
     
  7. 6-eyed shaman

    6-eyed shaman Sock-eye salmon

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    Why is one a choice but not the other?
     
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  8. John1234567

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    Lol funny how one persons sarcasm can offend people in a gay chat thread.
     
  9. Noserider

    Noserider Goofy-Footed Member

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    I don't need scientific evidence to support my view; I have my life.
     
  10. Meliai

    Meliai Members

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    By "change" I think you mean pretend. You cant just magically change chemistry and attraction.
     
  11. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    Is there scientific evidence to support the opposite view? Other than official examples of people that suppressed their homosexuality :p
     
  12. Ged

    Ged Tits and Thigh Man.

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    I would have thought babies don't really have a sexuality lol. Sexuality is something that creeps up on you slowly. Therefore I don't believe people are born gay.
     
  13. soulcompromise

    soulcompromise Member Lifetime Supporter

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    I'll answer, even though I think this thread is old. I don't think the OP posts here anymore...

    I don't know for sure, but my guess is we learn our sexuality. Thus, we are either initially presented with the option of gay or straight or bi or trans (all of the above?), or like most of us, we're only taught and only learn about one viable option. For me it was all 2 Live Crew when I was like 10 or 11 and that was a pretty graphic portrayal of straight guys chasing tail. But I think our sexuality develops earlier than that. Maybe you become curious about the other sex around 4 or 5 or 6 or 7 depending on the person. Anyway... I think Sociology or Anthropology and a good thorough google search might reveal a little more about this. So, in summary, my theory is that it (sexuality) is learned. Once you're old enough to make choices independently for yourself, say around 18, then you might be re-evaluating. Then it would be a choice. So really my answer is that it is neither a choice or something you're born into, but rather that it is something you learn culturally and sociologically.
     
  14. Asmodean

    Asmodean Slo motion rider

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    The sexual preference becomes apparent when the kid becomes sexual,, although in many cases we can see with hindsight a gay teen used to prefer to play with barbies and my little pony instead of soldiers etc. Which is why fathers often don't like to see their male kid craving dresses or barbies. Just giving some cliché examples. It's not always obvious but the kids sexuality is in there before it becomes sexual
     
  15. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    So you put anecdote over science. Good to know.
     
  16. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    Evidence?
     
  17. Maccabee

    Maccabee Luke 22:35-38

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    If there's a lack of evidence to prove that people are locked in their sexual orientation then there's little need to prove that they can change. Unless science found the gene to indicate that you're locked.
     
  18. Meliai

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    You're making the claim that one can change one's sexuality, the burden of proof lies with you.
     
  19. Noserider

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    There is a huge difference between anecdote and experience.

    I chose to be straight and just didn't happen.
     
  20. Noserider

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    Stupid way of wording it. Let me clarify what I meant.

    Most gay people would choose to be straight if it was, in fact, a choice. Some even try to "be" straight, living lives of lies, denial and misery.

    So what I'm saying is, if it was a choice, we'd all chose to be straight.
     
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