Did A Comet Strike Wipe Out Civilization In 11,000 Bc?

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  1. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    It's not just that objects further from the front will be drawn smaller, the objects themselves must be seen to recede to a vanishing point.

    Here's a painting by Grandma Moses, the background figures are slightly smaller than the foreground figures. But notice the lines of the buildings do not recede to a common vanishing point. She did not use the laws of perspective in this painting.
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  2. BlackBillBlake

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    An oblique projection.

    Anyway - I still think over painting is what we're looking at in those cave paintings.
     
  3. Moonglow181

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    I am still trying to understand what you are trying to say here. Grandma Moses is known as a primitive style painter....and she made a name for herself and many people love her artwork. Are you trying to say it is no good because she did not use lines of receding whatever?. I never paint using a ruler. I paint from feeling. There are all kinds of art. Some people are more precise in mathematics when painting and use rulers and things. To me that becomes tedious....and the feeling gets lost....but that is me. I am not a primitive style painter....I know about perspective....and light and shadows....the basics....but what are you saying here?

    I look at art and know whether I like it or not by how it makes me feel.
    I am not measuring the lines in anyone's paintings.

    Janet and Charlie Munroe made a name for themselves by emulating grandma's style, too....

    the beauty of art is that it is subjective....not every painting is going to affect someone the same way it may affect someone else,.
     
  4. MeAgain

    MeAgain Dazed & Confused Lifetime Supporter Super Moderator

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    No. I'm not saying primitive style art is inferior to any other type of painting style.

    We were talking about art and how it relates to the time period the art was made.
    The Egyptian painting of the mongoose lacked perspective. That doesn't make it inferior to other types of rendition. My point was that art has developed along with the development of other areas of the culture in which the art is produced.
    Grandma Moses was known as a primitive artist because she used a technique developed in "primitive" times.

    I like many primitive style paintings.

    I have a book called Art & Physics which really opened my eyes to the various art movements in that it explains how art developed in relation to science.
    The book postulates that primitive art relies on non-euclidean space. The artist doesn't try to reproduce the external world as much as they seek to reveal internal visions. Their ideas and depictions of space, time, and light don't comport with Newtonian physics.
     
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    A paper about coherent catastrophism. This hypothesis concerns astronomical catastrophic events that are not completely random and that occur at some regularity on time scales on the order of ten thousand years, as opposed to more random ones that occur on the order of 10 million years (stochastic catastrophism). The shorter timescale makes such events subject to the possible accounting by civilizations that were relatively recent and that were able to documented them, albeit in what might be considered today to be a crude manner (i.e., engravings in stone). One of the groups that have studied the GT site in Turkey is trying to determine if engravings are showing an accounting of a coherent catastrophic event.


    COHERENT CATASTROPHISM
    D. J. Asher
    Vistas in Astronomy, Vol. 38, pp. 1-27, 1994
    ©1994 Elsevier Science Lid

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  6. Irminsul

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    A flash like the birth of a sun
    A pillar of virgin fire
    Now glowing a ruby cloud
    The finger of death reaching higher

    Radiant dust a chimney rise
    Desert floor dissolved wide ablaze
    Golden plume against the midnight sky
    Burning eyes in death clouds ash grey face

    I have harnessed the stars
    Now unleashed upon the earth
    I am become death
    The destroyer of worlds

    Encased in lead and steel
    The end and infinity
    The eight moon the sixth day the year death
    The heatwave to grasp and consume your last breath

    Brought high on are marked silver wing
    Afar in cold thin morning air
    Below as the day begins
    The burning eyes in deaths face greedily stares

    I have harnessed the stars
    Now unleashed upon the earth
    I am become death
    The destroyer of worlds
     

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