What have you even read about this case? Few people are as big of critics regarding the police state as myself. At the same time, I am one of the few people on these forums who acknowledge how the media creates racial tension by making race an issue every opportunity they get. If you're going to be critical of the police state, instead of simply a liberal hypocrite, you would be critical of the police state all the time -- not simply when race becomes an issue and the news tells you to get riled up over something. Black people are killing their own people everyday, yet you fucking bleeding hearts don't say shit about that.
My understanding of the supposed robbery is that it was presented that way but later shown that he didn't, in fact, rob the store and was instead confronted by a fellow shopper over...who knows what. For the record, I'm all about calling out the police state every chance I get.
I don't feel like the incident is really the issue here, and I don't care about the specifics one way or the other. it was just a fuse/ trigger for all of the racial tension thats been building up for years in Ferguson and elsewhere from police abuse, the drug war, etc. Thats why you have folks coming in from other places to tear shit up. I'm not trying to validate the looting or vandalism, but no matter how misplaced their aggressions, some people have just fucking had it.
I dont see the problem with a police state when shitskins walk into any store and take whatever they want. they seems to having this mentality that nothing is sacred., when they invade your home., then youll call 911 praying for the white knights to come and save you. but curse the honky pig that kills an erratic poss in self defense.. pttf ., \
yeah i can't say that i'd appreciate anyone looting my home or place of business either. no matter what their race, i might shoot them.
[SIZE=medium]Exactly, Ferguson MO is a cultural isolate. It’s a small little pocket of Americana where progress towards racial equality is lagging behind. Change has been slow over the years and the majority black population has been growing increasingly frustrated. Proof of that is in the make-up of the police department, by now most of the police officers on the force and the police chief should be black.[/SIZE] [SIZE=medium]Hotwater[/SIZE]
I try not to take sides when it comes to things like this. I simply cannot defend the police state under any circumstances. However, at the same time I cannot defend people who give black people a free pass to act like fucking animals. Both sides in this instance are completely fucked. I am sure there are plenty of agent provocateurs on the scene in Ferguson, and it's hard to point the finger at only the people who are rioting since they've been propagandized by the media to act the way they are. Ultimately, I blame the media and political correctness. But one thing is clear, the powers that be WANT this rioting to occur because it gives the appearance of their actions being justified.
I see it as a tragic loss of life. Can you see that it is a problem that a mob wants an indictment regardless of the facts in the case? It could be that Wilson is guilty as hell, or it could be that the shooting was justified. I don't know all of the evidence in the case, but the fact that the grand jury acquitted him tends to support (but does not prove absolutely) the later conclusion. Yep. The change is happening mostly at the NSA level. Cops abusing power has been around for a long time. Body cams on cops seems like a good solution. Also screening out the power trip psychos and recruiting cops who can keep a cool head. There should be at least a public advocate to oppose the government in the FISA courts. Also, whenever there is a police shooting or the possibility of an officer committing a crime, an independent internal affairs unit should handle the investigation as soon as possible, rather than guys from the cop's own precinct. What you bet is the truth and what the truth actually is are not necessarily connected. Reasonable conclusions need to be supported by facts. Do you see how the statement I quoted before this makes you fit your own description? I agree with a lot of what you are saying, but you may be letting emotion cloud how you see things.
I also heard a news report that he hadn't robbed a store at all, he was just on his way to his grandma's house. Here's the surveillance video http://youtu.be/M6l9Ea0h9TQ What appears to be the case in the video (followed up by reports by the police of what took place), he stole some cigars from the store, then assaulted a store employee who stood in his way.
We saw the same fucking disgusting race baiting with the Trayvon incident. The media kept presenting the image of Trayvon being this innocent little kid who was just coming home from the store with a bag of Skittles when some evil "white man" (who was actually Hispanic and had several black people in his family) decided to gun him down for no reason other than the fact he was a racist. The TV media failed to show us the pictures of Trayvon as this rather big, intimidating looking dude flashing a "grill" and basically looking like the gangsta wannabe he was. You've gotta ask yourself why this is. Am I saying that alone is justification for him being shot? No. It just shows you that the Trayvon portrayed by the media probably was not the same Trayvon the was fatally shot after he physically assaulted Zimmerman and basically had him pinned down on the ground.
the video doesn't prove that much, only that Brown had engaged in petty theft and a minor act of violence immediately prior to the shooting. it makes it somewhat more credible that Brown may have attacked the officer, but is only circumstantial evidence.
On a side note: Officer Wilson got married during his 3 month disappearing act to no doubt some loose trailer park trash who was the former wife of the grand wizard of the KKK [SIZE=11pt]But that’s just my humble supposition [/SIZE] Hotwater
Jesus fucking Christ. But that's not the reason he was killed. He was killed because AFTER what was witnessed on the surveillance footage, he physically confronted some wimpy little white cop who was half his size, and the cop reacted the only way he thought he could, not knowing if Brown himself was armed or not. He didn't fucking shoot him simply because he was black. I am almost certain of that.
did i fucking say that? he shot him because he was a little pussy. he shot him because of the way police are trained in this country.