Black Lives Matter Accused Of Tying Up And Torturing Disabled Man

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  1. Meliai

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    Hmmmmm i wonder why a black advocacy group would blame white supremacists? Lol.

    Anyways, i said the QUESTION deserved a clear answer. Good god I give up
     
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  2. tumbling.dice

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    What, specifically, bothers you about what you read on the BLM website? Any quotes in particular? I've read through it and didn't find anything offensive. Thanks.
     
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  3. rollingalong

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    I dunno you guys...this is quite the cringe thread....hard to read
     
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  4. MorphGirl

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    I will keep this short. I have already quoted many times, the statements on the BLM website that excite and cause racism. I will not again.

    Most people focus on family, their work, their own personal goals. Just want to go home at the end of the day.
    When a group places blame on another group for all their problems, this causes fear and hatred. right wing, Donald trump, capitalists, white supremest.white America, them and us. If not for them we would not be struggling.

    To put all of the above under one umbrella is causing irrational fear in people, hatred. Hitler did the same thing. KKK does the same thing.
    People are reacting to this belief, Irrationally to this belief. Reactive violence is hate motivated. Not all white people are evil. Not all capitist is evil. Yet there is an element that believes it, one which is propagated by said group. Donald trump is not a racist as far as I know yet he has been labelled as such or lumped in with white supremest. Causing irrational fear and hatred.

    You can disagree with me, I don't care. I know the stages of hate and see it all very clearly.
     
  5. Asmodean

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    You are very evasive. Why are you still in this thread going in great detail about vague comparisons yet avoid the best and most on topic question in this thread? It's not the problem you have with the guy who asked, as you react extensively to his other posts .
     
  6. 6-eyed shaman

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    Lets recap the facts about the culture of Black Lives Matter

    1) They rejoice at the news of dead police officers
    http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/07/08/black-lives-matter-supporters-celebrate-police-deaths-twitter/
    http://100percentfedup.com/black-lives-matter-terror-group-tweet-insane-threats-and-messages-celebrating-deaths-of-dallas-cops/

    2) They shame and humiliate their own allies (Bernie Sanders)
    http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/politics/black-lives-matter-protesters-shut-down-bernie-sanders-rally/

    3) They are anti-LGBT (they view LGBT as competitors in the Oppression Olympics)
    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/jul/4/black-lives-matter-shuts-down-toronto-gay-pride-pa/

    4) They promote violence and riots
    http://www.mediaite.com/online/vox-editor-openly-supports-violence-if-trump-comes-to-your-town-start-a-riot/

    5) They fan the flames of anti-white racism (which undeniably led to this retarded guy's kidnapping)
    https://redice.tv/news/extreme-anti-white-tweets-from-blacklivesmatter-movement

    6) Not only do they block traffic, but emergency vehicles like ambulances
    http://www.wnd.com/2016/07/black-lives-matter-blocks-sick-child-in-ambulance/

    7) They believe in Jim Crow era discrimination practices of not selling to or serving certain folks:
    http://www.citynews.ca/2016/07/05/black-lives-matter-refused-white-woman-shirt-because-shes-not-black-identified-folk/

    8) Their ideological figurehead behind the movement is Assata Shakur. A convicted cop killing terrorist on the FBI's most wanted list.
    8.5) And they praise a murderous dictator Fidel Castro for granting Shakur asylum in Cuba
    http://downtrend.com/71superb/black-lives-matter-thanks-fidel-castro-for-harboring-cop-killer-assata-shakur

    9) White people are killed by cops at the same rate as Black people. The facts don't fit BLM's narrative.
    http://www.dailywire.com/news/7264/5-statistics-you-need-know-about-cops-killing-aaron-bandler

    10) Martin Luther King championed equality and building bridges with white america. Black Lives matter promotes segregation
    http://bluelivesmatter.blue/berkeley-protest/
    http://www.citynews.ca/2016/07/05/black-lives-matter-refused-white-woman-shirt-because-shes-not-black-identified-folk/
    http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/28906/


    But of course none of these people in these articles are true Scotsmen. Ain't dat right?
     
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  7. Reverand JC

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    About Assata Shakour.

    How the fuck do you shoot someone after you have been shot in the armpit in the arm they were allegedly holding the gun in?

    And when you shoot someone from in front how does a lethal shot from a police issued revolver hit them in the back?

    If you can explain this from a medical/physics perspective you deserve some type of prize.

    C/S,
    Rev J
     
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  8. Irminsul

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    Bullet clearly went through the victim showing a back wound.
    Get shot in the arm pit? That's okay because you shoot with your hand and fingers. :)

    :D

    Keep askin' I'll keep answering. :rofl:
     
  9. Asmodean

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    6-eyed: It gets hard to believe you really have a problem with the media. You're doing the same things you complain about.
     
  10. Meliai

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    3)

    In regards to the LGBT community, your sentiment that they are anti LGBT is misleading. I was curious about that one because if you read their website they make it very clear one of their missions is to highlight the problems of the LGBT community within the black community.

    So i clicked your link.

    Were they disrespectful? Yes. Did they abuse the platform the Toronto LGBT parade had given them? Yes.

    But anti LGBT? No.

    Now I do agree with Asmo on his statement above. w hy are you being purposely misleading?
     
  11. Asmodean

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    I thought also lets give it a fair try and clicked on the 2 last links under point 10. The second one is about not selling a t shirt to a white person, which later got explained why she didn't got one at that time. I understand the initital thought when reading the first segment but if you read the whole article including the explanation I don't see how you can use it for the conclusion 6-eyed came up with (or is deliberately working towards to). It is only clearly a dubious act if you would insist the explanation is bogus (which I guess 6-eyed would).
    The 3rd link is about segregated housing for black students on a californian university but does not mention BLM one time :p

    I'm sorry (for you, to be sure) things like this is causing people to be unable to take you really serious 6-eyed. I don't think you can really blame us for that if this is your way of trying to bring a point across or discuss a serious issue. And of course it makes your supposed outrage against what the media is doing a bit hypocritical.
     
  12. Meliai

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    I'll probably click some more links later to give him the benefit of the doubt

    But it does seem like he cherry picks certain slow news day stories and then puts his own spin on them

    I dont agree with BLM's tactics sometimes. Two of them (out of how many?) did mess with my boy Bernie, who really is probably one of, if not the only, politician who would have sat down and had a conversation with them

    But i dont think that makes all of BLM evil, like it seems like they're being painted by some in this thread. Like i said earlier in the thread, there are 48 different chapters operating independently of each other.
     
  13. Asmodean

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    Exactly.

    Me neither of course. But there's a difference in going at a thing the wrong way (in one situation, not with their whole organisation) and (ab)using that to put it like they're as dubious as a white supremacist group or as if they're actively trying to make things worse, like if that is their ultimate purpose :p

    If this issue will burst at some time into a real clash between different groups of people it will be between fanatics on both sides. Not the average black citizens against the whites, not the poor against the rich etc. etc. It will be fanatics against fanatics. Unfortunately OP seems caught up in it. Well, in the part that does their thing on the internet that is.
     
  14. MorphGirl

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    People here really need to wake up and understand what BLM is doing and has done to these 4 racists that attacked this young man. This does not excuse the attackers. No different than the KKK or Hitler.

    You all need to understand the stages of hate to understand how they truly are responsible, even though they say that the violence that happens at rally is not their fault.. it is all part of the stages of hate and getting people to hate along side the haters. it is all part of the agenda. This is why BLM is responsible for what these 4 people did to this young man.

    Stage 1 - The Haters Gather
    BLM Organizers. Haters don't like to hate alone, because they are insecure people and need backup. Rather pathetic but true.

    Stage 2 - The Hate Group Defines Itself
    At this point it gets a symbol. Something that is recognizable like a swastika or say this
    [​IMG] Note the black hand.
    Other things are decided on as well like hand signals. https://fellowshipofminds.files.wordpress.com/2016/05/black-lives-matter.jpg which you can view at that link.

    Stage 3 - The Hate Group Disparages the Target

    This is an important thing to take note of. Hate is the glue that holds all the haters together. In this case it is the the hate for donald trump, white america and the white supremests right wing. Apparently they are all the same and they are the enemy. They hate on them to improve their own self image and need to put someone else down to do it. Look what those two did to Bernie Sanders. Telling him to shut up, let them speak. He was the one most behind the black community and they made him look like a weak man, when he was in reality being polite. Took over the mic. It was pathetic and this was justified? Why? because Bernie is white?

    Stage 4 - The Hate Group Taunts the Target

    To avoid the members from looking in at themselves and the entire situation the leaders will then increase their rhetoric with lies and mislead the people. Stand up and fight for your people to keep them from looking inward. At this stage you start to hear more racial slurs like white bitch, white ass punk. fuck white people, fuck donald trump. Graffiti will also start to appear.

    Stage 5 - The Hate Group Attacks the Target Without Weapons

    Now this is the stage in which you will see people dragged from cars, beaten, abused, kicked, shoved, bullied. This is the stage where it differentiates between the vocally abuse ones to the physically abusive ones. The ones who attacked the young man were showing where they stand at this stage in their indoctrination. This is why there are videos on phones from people who witness the abuse and they are in shock and don't know what to do. they might be vocal but they are not the violent ones. The violence is wanted even though group leaders deny it.

    Stage 6 - The Hate Group Attacks the Target with Weapons

    Usually weapons are chosen that are up close and personal at this stage, like a knife that was pulled on Austn, This is so that the victim can see the anger in the racists eyes and feel fear. Intimidation time.

    Stage 7: The Hate Group Destroys the Target

    This is the stage where you will see people killed. Luckily it did not reach this stage with this young man that was assaulted, thanks to the neighbour downstairs who had her door kicked in by the girls and was robbed. This is the stage where they feel the most power. With this power the racist feels the most amount of self worth.

    So as you can see by all this above, BLM is a hate group and did in fact cause this racist attack.

    If you want to recognize Black Lives, look to your own community when a black person is killed in a drive by shooting. More Black people are killing the people in their own community yet they worry about gathering forces more than actually doing something for the black communities. All lives matter and killing a cop is not solving anything, He was a person... with a family and people who loved and cared about him. he was just doing his job. When BLM has a rally, it is cops who are clearing the roads in front of them so that they can have their protest while hate is screamed at them. Well violent attacks are possible on their person. Those cops are putting themselves in harms way so that you can have your freedom to speak your hatefful words.

    Watch the videos below if you want, they are not violent..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT2e8RIcXNM

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zCF84fFH7g
     
  15. MorphGirl

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    it is not dubious and use this term to diminish what is going on is ludacrous. To suggest that my statements should not be relied upon is ridiculous. I really suggest you read the book the art or war, and/or... check out Hate Crimes: International Perspective on Cause and Control

    Plus read my very easy to follow explanation as to what is going on with BLM above. Amazing. I am amazed really that so many seem so blind.

    “Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.”

    About Assata Shakour.
    Adrenaline. Pretty simple explanation. It happens all the time. You are wounded and so wound up you don't realize you are hurt. Not uncommon. shot in the armpit... thrrough some fatty skin. Will to survive is pretty strong and that is a superficial wound.... people have worse wounds than that and still manage to shoot back, hold a gun. shoot.
     
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  17. Meliai

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    Morphgirl - you mentioned looking into your own communities and examine who is doing drive by shootings

    Now, i know my own personal experience doesnt amount to much but i stll wanted to share. And sorry but i'll probably ramble

    I live in a middle class neighborhood. My next door neighbors are black and my across the street neighbors are also black - and i wanted to make sure i mentioned i lived in a nice neighborhood so no one would make assumptions. Anyways.

    I get a little pissy about race and racism sometimes because my neighbors across the street are literally the nicest people i've ever met in my life - out of everyone i've ever met, black, white, asian, whatever. They're fucking nice. The man of the house brings his lawm mower over everytime he sees us cut the grass and helps us. He mows the lawn of like 4 elderly people in the neighborhood. For free. ( we always buy him beer for helping us.).

    i bring him up because when we first moved here he went out of his way to be friendly, later told us he tries to be friendly to everyone because otherwise people will make assumptions since he's a big black man.

    Whats my point? I dont really have one, except to illustrate why I will absolutely defend any decent black person who wants to organize and fight the prejudice they deal with on a daily basis. I dont care about your stages of hate, i know when my own town had a BLM protest there was no hate, they were mostly decent people, and i know this because some of them were my neighbors or old school friends or coworkers. So i cant allow people like you to stereotype and put them all in neat little boxes where they're all just hateful and racist and likely to torture a retarded boy at some point. It doesnt work like that. Some of them merely want the world to see they have to try just a little bit harder than white people not to be stereotyped as a scary black man. Thats all.

    What really prompted me to respond to your comment about the drive by shootings (i told you this would be rambling) is there WAS a drive by shooting at the house of the other black family who live on the other side of me. They're a nice family but they let a cousin in need of a place to stay live with them and he was involved in some really bad shit. I dont know the adults who live there very well but I do know their kids and grandkids as they wander in and out of our yard all the time to play with my son. So that kinda hit me hard, one of those kids could have been shot and luckily they werent.

    What does that have to do with BLM? Absolutely nothing, just like YOUR comment about drive by shootings has nothing to do with it either, you're merely trying to paint black people into neat little boxes of hate and violence. Disregarding the fact that, like my neighbors, there are decent people in the black community also affected by the gang and drug related violence within their community and are victims of it

    And the sad part is you'll never be bothered to get to the root of it, you dont care about cyclical poverty or police brutality or the absence of fathers due to a higher RATE of incarciration among black men - not saying black people dont have a choice and cant take personal responsibility for their actions, but we need to acknowledgw their challenges as well.

    So for what its worth, thats why i support the right for blacks to organize and protest and recognize the fact that most do it with good intentions. It is a shame things like the police shooting in..Dallas, right? ..it is a shame it happened and it is a shame some have used obnoxious tactics because it does cast a shadow on the movement but I dont believe it defines it.

    Just my perspective, I don't really expect to change anyone's mind and I never really go into a debate with the intention of changing anyone's mind, I just enjoy sharing perspectives so I thought I would share my own.
     
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    John Wayne Gacy was also a highly respected person in his neighborhood.........

    John Wayne Gacy kill over 30 people and buried a lot of them in his basement while holding community parties and children's event on the property.

    The neighborhood thought he was one of the good guys too.

    Just when you talk about neighbors coming over and helping without being asked and doing odd jobs for several other houses in the neighborhood, just got me thinking. :D like they say, it's always the ones you least suspect.
     
  19. rollingalong

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    that's a pile of shit...you can count the drive by shootings in Toronto last year on one hand


    Toronto had 407 shootings in total last year..2016 and 40 resulted in death....that is all shootings because the police don't have a classification called ''drive by''...that is term used by the press...and morph girl

    223 of those shootings...THERE WERE NO INJURIES

    of the rest there was 152 injuries

    but there is also 165 shootings that they do not know what happened....that means they found bullet cassings but zero victims


    she didn't ''look into'' fuck all
     
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    Is BLM an outside of America thing too? Like in Canada?
     
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