Bible Questions?

Discussion in 'Sanctuary' started by OlderWaterBrother, May 17, 2009.

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  1. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Old wine skins are the status quo, the established traditions of men. The new wine is the information that Jesus is providing.
    This new information is fundamentally different from the perceptions and understandings of the traditional order. If you try and use this information to reinforce or find advantage in the current "world order" it creates controversy and the new information instead of leading men to freedom becomes a weapon to tyrannize them with. You can see the splitting of the wine skins today in the amount of antipathy that the indoctrinated have for the "infidel" or for that matter that the indoctrinated find for each other.
    It is for this reason that men have turned the truth into a cult of human sacrifice.
    I heard a man once in the throws of religious fervor proclaim, hail blood of Jesus. Thank God for this man that Jesus is dead!
     
  2. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    http://www.hipforums.com/newforums/showpost.php?p=6019445&postcount=1641


    WTF
    :confused:
     
  3. LSDMIKE

    LSDMIKE Member

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    Jesus this Jesus that = he is real so get over it you dicks
     
  4. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    is WC Italy 1 Australia 0 still hurting?
     
  5. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    What was Jesus’ point when he said that you do not sew a new patch on an old garment or put new wine in old wineskins?

    Basically, he meant that Christianity would not, and in fact could not, be made to conform to the Judaism of his day with its traditions of men that had developed.

    According to Mark’s account, Jesus said: “Nobody sews a patch of unshrunk cloth upon an old outer garment; if he does, its full strength pulls from it, the new from the old, and the tear becomes worse. Also, nobody puts new wine into old wineskins; if he does, the wine bursts the skins, and the wine is lost as well as the skins. But people put new wine into new wineskins.”—Mark 2:21, 22; Matt. 9:16, 17; Luke 5:36-39.

    Jesus had just been asked why his disciples did not practice fasting as did the religious leaders, the Pharisees. Christ replied that, while he was with his followers, fasting as a sign of mourning was inappropriate. Then he said what is quoted above.

    There was practical sense in his illustrations. If you sew a patch of new cloth on an old garment, the new material will shrink and rip away when this garment is washed. Or, if you put new wine in an old skin bottle that has lost its elasticity, the skin will burst when the new wine ferments and gives off carbon dioxide.

    Jesus thus helped his hearers to appreciate that no one should expect his followers to conform to the old practices of Judaism, such as ritual fasting. Also, his powerful new teachings could not fittingly be contained in the system of Jewish religion. Rather, those hearing and following Jesus could rejoice in the vitality of his teachings without trying to compromise them with the Pharisaical ways of the Jewish leaders.
     
  6. thedope

    thedope glad attention Lifetime Supporter

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    Do you feel this has application to today's culture or is it only relevant to historical times?
     
  7. honeyfugle

    honeyfugle pumpkin

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    :rolleyes:
     
  8. LSDMIKE

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    hehehe im italy ;)
     
  9. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    No! I'm Italy!
     
  10. def zeppelin

    def zeppelin All connected

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    How can our conscience become corrupt and how can we spot it if it is leading down that path?
     
  11. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    you know by being conscious.....
     
  12. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    The conscience can be trained for good or ill and the the way to spot which way it's leading is to check on what you are teaching it.
     
  13. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    Glory hunter...
     
  14. LSDMIKE

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    :rolleyes:

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  15. jmt

    jmt Ezekiel 25:17

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    shes cute....
     
  16. honeyfugle

    honeyfugle pumpkin

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    This is about as far off topic as it gets... ;)
     
  17. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    I don't know, have you read the Song of Solomon lately? ;)
     
  18. LSDMIKE

    LSDMIKE Member

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    jmt started it

    bro that was hehehehe
     
  19. Ukr-Cdn

    Ukr-Cdn Striving towards holiness

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    We used the part about the male lover leaping over the hill like a stag at our wedding.

    Anyone read Maccabees lately? ;)
     
  20. OlderWaterBrother

    OlderWaterBrother May you drink deeply Lifetime Supporter

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    Interesting. :D

    Now...
    :D
     
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