Bible Questions?

I just haven't seen anything else.

 

Perhaps not in this thread but you seem better educated than that and probably know of other reasons put forth to prove that the Bible is the word of God, besides that the Bible says it is.

 

To be completely honest and leave any past animosity between us aside, I actually don't know of any other reasons, and that is big reason why I began to branch out from Christianity.

 

Sorry if I might offend but in my opinion all religions including Christianity are solar cults.

That's not a bad thing and I'm not saying that being in a sun cult is evil etc etc
what I'm saying is if that's what it is then so be it.

I know that this will get me flamed but why not have a full discussion on the topic without flaming and see where this topic really can go.



Religion is the Ultimate Mind Control


I know that some of you will immediately put up some road blocks to the information that I'm going to put here, but for your own good, please keep an open mind. The discomfort is being caused by your conditioning and has nothing to do with TRUTH.

Upon first looking at religion, no matter who you are, we all stand back and offer a little respect and reverence for the INSTITUTION. Let’s take a look at the institution of religion as a whole and see what the truth has to say. I like this quote: "They must find it difficult, those who confuse authority for truth rather than truth for authority".

Babylon is the source of most of the world’s nastier habits, e.g. fiat money (money that has no worth other than the paper it is written on), state religion, institutional theft on every level of government (sound familiar?). Their religion was one that sacrificed human babies to a god called moloch (google bohemian grove). Can you say cann-a–baal (cannibal)? The high priests were called cannah baals, or the priests that come from cannah and serve baal. It is not normal human behavior for people to give their children to the cannah baals to be sacrificed. The idiom of being a cannibal came from the high priest eating the livers of the ones they sacrificed. Do you think that anyone would do this if they had their own minds? I THINK NOT! They did it because of their conditioning!

Then the Gnostic religion followers came along and they used the same methods as the Babylonians, however their sacrifices were to a mythical person called "the Christ". The person of Jesus came along a few hundred years later. They sacrificed him every day and twice on Sunday. The Gnostic priests knew that the bread they used was just bread and the wine they used was just wine, but they told the people that they had special powers to change the bread and wine into the body and blood of the Christ person.

Then came along Constantine and the council of Nicene, in the 4th century CE. They realized that this Gnostic religion had a lot of public appeal, so they highjacked it and made the Universal Catholic Religion. Borrowing from the available historic figures they found a magick wizard named Simon Margus, who was very popular in the first century CE. He was regarded as a demagogue and much revered. The Club of Rome on the Hills of the Sorcerers (Mountis Vaticanis, Vatican Hill, 7 hills) made him their first “Peter the Pope”.

The people were ready to accept this wholeheartedly. After all, was he not just like Baccus or Dianisus? With the lies of the Council of Nicene put down into a document, anyone who challenged it would be executed. The original document of the "New Testament" had the Papal Bull upon it and if anyone did dare to challenge it, it would be the last thing they would ever do. This immediately created a "you better not question this or it’s your ass" mentality. If the truth needs to be protected that hard, then how true can possibly it be?

This was just the beginning of the lies and deceit that the catholic/christian religion brought to the world. Over the next 1500 years, they raped, killed, butchered, stole and perverted the natural world without any remorse.

Some of you may wonder, whom did they kill? The list is long and it included:
Catholics vs. Anabaptist
Catholics vs. Huguenots
Catholics vs. Lutherans
Catholics vs. Baptist
Catholics vs. the Church of England
Catholics vs. Ireland
to name a few of those who were killed in the name of the church.

A bit of trivia: What is the derivation of the word "Church"? The Greek word,
eclisia. This is also the word for whorehouse. Speaking of the Greek mystery schools, they also had baptism, holy eucharist and confession, to name a few. Coincidence? The baptism was what the vestal virgins did after a night of servicing the parishioners with sexual favors for cash donations. Doing this all night long can make a girl a little smelly and worse for the wear. So why not make the taking of a bath a mysterious sacrament so that the simple minded persons can marvel over it? The “cleansing spirits” come over someone when they entered the baptismal bath and removed the smells of being debauched for the evening by men hoping to get the "spiritual experience" with a vestal virgin. Can you say, mitkva, baptism, nuns, priests, holy water, holy wine, confessions?

You may say whom did they rape?
It would be easier to say whom they did not? That I know of, none. The first to be raped for the purpose of genetic cleansing were the Jews. They might have gotten the job done if not for the rulings of smart Rabbis From then on, Jewishness has been determined by the lineage of the mother, not the father. This meant that they could rape all they wanted, yet the children would all be Jewish no matter who their father was.
There were others not so fortunate.
The Spaniards raped their way though central america and south america with the priests of the Pope blessing them with holy water before they went out to the people to “bring them to the church of christ” – by raping them. These men were required to give their name to the bastard children they fostered, to give the sick deed an air of litigitmacy and all offspring were automatically children of the church of rome.

This was also done in the Philippines, India, Africa and America by the Protestants, as well as the genocide of the indigenous native peoples.

There has not been a war since the 4th century that did not take place with the blessing and acquiescence of ALL Religions, bar none.

For those who think that Judaism is the only pure religion, please think again! If we go back to the days of Abraham, there was none of the following:

Ceremonies
Regalia
Pageants
Mysteries
Secrets of any kind
A Ruling Class

So where did these things come from? Babylon, where else?
When King Nebucadnezzar took the Jews into captivity in 500 BC, he took away their original language. Under Babylonian law the only language allowed to be used in any written document was the Chaldee. The Jews adapted their original pictograph language to the cuneiform Chaldee to be allowed to write anything --
government documents, religious documents, business transactions, etc.
While doing so, they also learned the religion of the Chaldee. The Babylonian religion had its own mystery schools.
Today we call these mystery schools Kaballah. Madonna and Brittany Spears are among the adherents of the Kaballah.

The basis of the Kaballah is a road map to contact spirits on the “other side” for the purpose of conversing with the fallen ones (those who were expelled from heaven with Lucifer), a.k.a., Fallen angels.
The Kaballah has two sides -- the white or positive side or right hand path, and the Black or negative side or left hand path. We use many names for this today -- witchcraft, black magic to name a few.

The Mikva, wine, bread, candles (candles were made from the rendered fat from a sacrificial offering, either human or animal). Imagine if you could convince people that the candles that you sold them allowed them to offer sacrifices to your deity without anyone you love dying -- just buy the candles and you are exempt from the sacrifice lottery. So you could make an offering to the deity anytime you wanted by lighting a candle.

The cultural intergenerational religious beliefs have been passed on for thousands of years. You may ask, how could they do this to us and no one challenges their authority? Truth is, there have been many challengers:
Martin Luther, Alexander Hisop (author of the book, The Two Babylons), Achyra S (author of the book, The Christ Conspiracy), Jordan Maxwell, to name a few.

We have had a group of liars, priests, rabbis, imams, shamans, who for generation after generation have conditioned us to accept their authority, no matter how antithetical to our own interest this may be.

Some of the emotional black mail they use includes getting dead loved ones out of purgatory, getting yourself out of hell before you even get there, and the most famous of the blackmail lines, "He died for your sins".

Only those who entertain the deity with the proper regalia, ceremonies, pomp, and words spoken exactly (a mind control technique) are what is really pleasing to deity. How many times has the average christian spoken or heard the "Lord’s prayer"? How many times has the average Jew heard the Shema? Repetition is the most basic form of mind control. I believe that it was the nazi Joseph Goerbles who said, "if you tell a lie often enough, the people will begin to believe it". Does it not seem much more plausible that the deity knows who you are and what is in your heart and knows if you love or not without the words being carefully chosen by the religious leaders? It is anything more than mind control that if anyone has the audacity to challenge the most ridiculous of the religious leaders’ lies, they are called God haters, heretics or worse? The last thing the rulers of this world can withstand is the open mind searching for truth, because the thinking mind cannot accept the mountain of lies that religious institutions have wrought.

A very effective mind control technique is to quote scriptures within a sermon.

Listen to this:

Please turn with me to Matt 23.13
Please turn with me to Gen. 3.11
Please turn with me to Isa. 43.14
Please turn with me to Hos. 3.4
Please turn with me to Rev 12.4
Please turn with me to ......................
Please turn with me to.......................
Please turn with me to…………………..
please turn with meeeeeeeeeeeee.
please turn with m......................
By now your mind is ready for whatever conditioning the sermon giver wants to insert and can accept the Neuro-Linguistic programming (NLP).
“Neuro” for your nervous system or brain
“Linguistic” for Words
“Programming” for mind control.
So when the minster or priest or rabbi tells you to continually turn to this chapter or that, after all that frantic page turning, that is when the program code is implanted into your brain.

Anyone who has ever been to a sermon and has been through this mind control technique can attest to the fact that there are few who can keep up with the preacher’s rapid page turning, and has no conscious choice but to accept the conditioning as “truth”. After all, you would not be there if you did not have a certain level of trust in the institution and its representative, the priest, rabbi or minster. This sets you up for whatever “truth” they choose to insert. This is the real purpose of prayers of a very specific nature, ceremonies that are very carefully crafted to condition your mind, and a moral structure that is crafted to make you comply with their mind control. Imagine being told that the most basic function of life is only done with their permission.

Think not? Look at marriage licenses. The Olde English marriage license was called Fornication Under Consent of the King, which acronym is F.U.C.K. If you can make people think that they need the permission of the King (who gets his authority from the church) to allow you to perform one of the most basic human functions, you truly are under some very strong mind control.

In the book of Genesis, all the patriarchs simply “went into their wives”, declared them to the public to be their wives, and the deed was done -- no permission from a king or a priest.

If we search for truth with a mind that has been pre-conditioned by imbedded “truths”, our search will be fruitless. Where does that imbedded “truth” come from?

Schools, whose only purpose is to condition our children to be good citizens and believe all the lies the system masters want the people to believe.

Organized religions, loaded with lies too numerous to mention them all. Suffice it to say that no one’s religion is immune to the real morality of their actions.

Governments, who are the police force used to keep the simple people from thinking too much and asking too many questions.

Large, transnational corporations, whose reason for owning and controlling everything is to make sure we continue to pump out “good corporate citizens” who will be good consumers and follow their conditioning. If you doubt this for even a second, think of it this way: who in their right mind would trade in a perfectly good car every two years for another new car (and additional payments), if it were not for the constant reinforcement from the above mentioned institutions? The beast needs compliant, docile, mindless consumers, and religion serves its purpose. Can you say protestant work ethic? Who were they working for?

I prefer using the original hebrew word for what is today called religion.
Ha Deen, meaning “the life”. “The life” to be lived is one of love and peace, not of lies and religions, i.e., mind control. This mind control blocks us from the real power of the Creator Deity and leaves us helpless to men’s malevolent control.
The only true religion is Love, everything else is used as control for our masters.


The real truth is simply Peace, Love and Compassion.
Everything else is a method of
control.

 

And yet, peace love and compassion are at the core of every major religion there is.

 

How is that relevant?

There are also people of all types of backgrounds.

Does that mean that all people are some how related to religions?

It's not their basic beliefs, even atheist have these qualities also.

I'm not making an attack on religions but I think that people should have all the information available. Just believing something because you heard it from your preacher, rabbi, priest etc or reading it in a book that has had more
Interpolations
Interpretations
Versions
Text removed
Text included
Text invented

is not good enough. Does it not say in the book of Hosea that
"My people perish from lack of knowledge"

Most hebrew prophets where known as shouters, they were not part of the system, they were the ones who called out the liars and religious leaders.

Today they would be called

HIPPIES
CONSPIRACIES NUTS
Malcontents

Not
RABBI
PRIEST
MINSTER
ETC

 

I don't really get the point you are trying to convey.

 

If Christianity has any authority or responsibility to the truth should all of the historical facts be considered?

Should not all of someone's "beliefs" be carefully explored and proved?

I'm not saying this about anyone here but many hear a minster etc say something and this is how they create their beliefs!

Learning the original Hebrew then reading the bible paints a completely different picture. The original Hebrew only had 6000 known words! Yet the entire Torah was supposedly written in this language.

Considering that the English language has 988968 words..... think about it!

Something to think about

 

Why are there so many religions if the god of the holy bible is supposedly the one true god?

 

Different perceptions of the same source, my guess.

 

Is He?

 

Perhaps you didn't notice it was a question not a statement.
Perhaps he didn't but somebody certainly did.

 

Well, I made it though your post and all I can say about it is what does any of this have to do with true Christianity?

 

Satan turning himself into an angel of light.

 

Oh dear...

 

Oh

Picture above is Satan turning into a deer of light.

J/king. I wish we could start a thread about the whole Satan turning himself into an angel of light thing, it would be an interesting topic. I think it requires a lot of context before people can understand what is meant exactly by, "Satan turning himself into a being of light".

When a non-Christian hears these types of statements without context, we usually end up thinking it's an empty headed response.

It's like trying to explain to people during 1920 that the reason why we get sick sometimes is due to tiny critters inside the body. Imagine hearing that without understanding what that means. Anything can sound crazy if it isn't understood.

 

christianity being solar cults not really the only two cult branches of christianity to date is Jehovah Witnesses and Mormons.

to me Religion is Satans mind control trick, Personally Satan is porbably the most religious "thing" / "person" in this world.


what does the Bohemian Grove have to do with anything with Christianity it s just a Mason cult!? that hates Christianity? also I dont see nor heard of Moloch being apart of Freemasonary or the Bohemian Grove. Baphomet is one of the freemason god also the Owl is another god or "symbol" for them. I have never seen Moloch be apart of the Bohemian Grove thats if your speaking about the Mason group Bohemian Grove.

also what does cannibals have to do with christianity?

 

I cant stress how much Peter was NOT a pope.

The Roman Catholic church has always been a hard ass church doing what they feel and not doing things in Gods will. have you know notice how u shown the "wars" or "fights" going against other religions that the RCC ? have caused? like Jesus said " you know them by their fruits" ( spanish coming to the new world) same goes for the Protestant. Those religion are baloney.

ok now King Nebucadnezzar was given control over Israal by God so your arguement is starting to fail. So under King N's rule of course all those things changes. God gave Israel to King N. due to the fact that the Jews where worshiping Idols so their for King N. starts influencing their "religion".


Now you stated Kaballah which is totally Cult. Kaballah is even in the Tarot cards which is something totally against God. God hates fortune telling of any sort.
Tarot Card Kaballah
Kaballah Tree of life.........baloney

as you know in the pic above of tarot you see the set up of the coins then take a look at the second pic. Knowing how God feel on Fortune telling and then seeing that same thing going on the Kaballah you already know Kaballah is garbage. their for your arguement fails once again.

Now you Mention Madonna and britteny spears being part of Kaballah....come on these two are stupid i reallt doubt they know anything of what they follow.

now you seem to lack knowledge of how God hates witchcraft and even you notice that witchcraft is connected to kaballah their for is something anyone under following of Jehovah would know not to mess with.

 

I made the comment in sanctuary, where everyone is supposed to Christian and in a thread about the Bible. So I thought a Bible answer would be appropriate, oh well, maybe a thread on it would be a good thing.

 

But what about princess Toadstool!?!

What will become of her!?!

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